New Xmax 300 !

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by wibble, Sep 16, 2017.

  1. pnw

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    I haven't been to silver falls in a while and since the gorge is still closed I might take a trip down when they get it in stock to take a look and have a sit on it. I'm not really in the market though, just curious.
  2. MarylandStrom

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    It could be a requirement, dictated by the licensing agreement with Yamaha. I suspect Yamaha would like one of each model in their showrooms. Though that practice has strapped more than a few dealers with lengthy floor plan costs on units that refuse to move. And also the reason a few dealers will unload a bike. at or below cost, just to save on floor plan interest.

    For those that aren't aware, bikes have to be paid for by the dealer once they arrive at their shop. Some (meaning very few) dealers pay cash for the bikes. Most dealers have an agreement with a finance company like GE Capital here in the States, who pays for the bikes, then charges floor plan interest every month until a unit is sold. Having a scooter on the floor for just a few months, negates the little profit a dealer makes once the scooter is sold. Hence the reason a dealer will "blow out" a seldom sold product such as a scooter in a non urban area.

    Sometimes you can get a better deal if the dealer doesn't have a particular model on the floor. Your dealer will go online and check other dealer's inventories. Once they find a unit at another dealership, they transfer it to their dealership and sell it to you. They have paid no floor plan interest and are only out the hourly wage and fuel cost they paid someone in their shop to pick up the scooter from the other dealership.

    One last approach you may consider. Here in the States, Yamaha (and probably the other manufacturers as well) invite their dealers every few months to an auction in their region. There in the warehouse, Yamaha will have damaged crates, usually forklift damage. The bike inside the crate may have scratches on the lower body work, or possibly a side case will have a hole punched in it. You can look inside the crate with a flashlight wherever the crate was penetrated to see what is damaged. In addition, when a dealer goes belly up, Yamaha collects all the bikes from the dealer and sells them at their auction. So instead of bidding on a damaged crate, there will be a line of bikes already setup that you can bid on.

    If you have a good relationship with your dealer and he participates in these auctions, you might have him be on the lookout for a damaged scooter. Most stuff is cosmetic and easily fixed. It carries a normal warranty from Yamaha. And the cost these dealers pay at the auction is very, very low compared to a new unit bought from Yamaha.
  3. Jim T

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    Maybe things are looking up. I just checked their website and it shows "Sale Pending" for the Xmax and it's still in transit to their dealership! I hope I can get a look at it before the new owner picks it up.

    A couple of months ago there was an Xmax at two different Oregon dealerships north of me, but they both disappeared in a short time.

    Jim
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    Update: the dealer ordered a 2" pivoting Rox Riser yesterday and will see if it's a viable option. He said if the Riser doesn't work out I won't be charged for it, he will only charge me an hour of labor. That's a good deal and maybe we learn something useful for taller riders.
  5. Ricardo J

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    Update, The Sequel: dealer installed the 2” Rox Riser today and everything works. Cable lengths are satisfactory. Looks "moto", except for those now-unused brackets on the bar. 53049F5E-4680-4035-9BAA-DB85AB0BA45F.jpeg
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  6. The Virginian

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    This! ^^^^^ Is a very accurate statement that folks should take into consideration.
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  7. Jim T

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    Looks good. Myself I'd make a bracket that bolted to those two empty holes, then bolt a RAM mount to that and mount my GPS.

    Jim
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    Update. Got a call from my dealer today. The guy that had put a deposit down on the Xmax decided it wasn't for him.........so it's available. I'll be going out to check it out next riding day we have here. Could be an expensive ride on my part!

    Jim
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    Rode out to my dealer this afternoon to have a look at the Xmax. Looks really nice! Sales guy talked me into taking a demo ride. Impressive! Good acceleration. Good brakes. Didn't get it much over 45 mph since it had zero miles on it. I noticed that there was enough wind noise that I would want to use my ear plugs on longer rides. I was amazed at how much storage it had under the seat. It sat a little higher than I would of liked with my 30" inseam, but certainly nothing I haven't dealt with before. Nice low center of gravity.

    I rode my Triumph the 35 miles to my dealer on country roads. I didn't notice it on the way there...........but on the way home, I really started noticing how much I was shifting.........what's with that! :confused Maybe it had something to do with my scooter demo?

    Jim
  10. gumshoe4

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    Now you're getting it! Once you've ridden an automatic, manual shift sometimes doesn't seem quite as appealing.
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    Spot on!
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  12. Jim T

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    I'm sure I'm "preaching to the choir" here. I took my XT250 dual sport out for a ride this afternoon. It was about the same temperature (52 degrees) as yesterday when I did the Xmax demo ride. I was amazed at just how much warmer the ride was on the Xmax! It's fairing and windshield are pretty darn effective.

    Jim
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    A couple of years ago I was on a street ride with some friends. I was on my Majesty and a friend on his XT250. We swapped bikes for a bit. We were both amazed at how much lighter the steering on the Majesty was despite it being a much heavier bike. My friend described the steering on the Majesty as "telepathic". How does the Xmax steering compare to your XT?
  14. Jim T

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    Now that's a good question that I hadn't really thought about. I'd probably have to ride them one after the other to check that out. What I can say for sure is that I didn't notice anything quirky about the steering. Did some parking lot maneuvers as well as a short road ride. Felt just like a small motorcycle to me. I wonder if that has anything to do with it having a regular motorcycle type triple tree? One thing I do remember, in addition to what I've already mentioned, is being able to move my feet back on the floor boards far enough to be able to lift myself off the seat if I wanted to.

    I can see one of these scooters in my future. The big question is whether I'll keep the XT250 in case the opportunity arises to do some dual sport riding. I'll definitely keep it for a while. There are a fair amount of gravel roads around here, but I'm thinking the Xmax would do just fine putt-ing down them.

    Jim
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    I occasionally take all my scooters off the pavement but I still have a dual sport motorcycle for more serious dirt riding.

    As for steering, the steering on my Majesty is not quirky, just very low effort.
  16. Jim T

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    That's good to hear about off pavement. The gravel roads around here are usually in good shape.

    Yes.........I think low effort would accurately describe the Xmax as well.
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    I tried my Honda Forza 300 on a gravel road down to Ross Lake. It took hours to go around all the pot holes. On the DR650 I would just go through them.

    I did Tulameen which was a smoother dirt road and went slowly to get 98 miles per Canadian gallons.
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    It's all about the rider.
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  19. Jim T

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    Great video! :clap

    Looks like I shouldn't have any problem with nice gravel roads! :wings

    Jim
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    Being India, they are probably 110cc and about 200 pounds.

    A Forza 300 is about 450 pounds and substantially more money.

    Looks like fun, I would do that on my Forza 300 only a little slower and safer.

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