Next in the BDR series - UTBDR

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by eakins, Aug 13, 2011.

  1. NMTrailboss

    NMTrailboss Team Dead End

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    Yes, but is it still closed on weekends? I was hoping to go through there this Sunday but if it will be closed on weekends as well, we will reroute.
  2. KiloGraham

    KiloGraham Been here awhile

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    My plan was to be there on Sunday but we got delayed. The workers we talked to said it's closed during the week unless they have something on the road that keeps it blocked on weekends. We almost had them talked into letting is by the locked gate they have put up but a supervisor came by and said no.
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    NMTrailboss Team Dead End

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    Awesome...Thank you! We may give it a shot and see if we can get through on Sunday.
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  4. IDontWantAPickle

    IDontWantAPickle I just want to ride my motor-sickle!

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    Lots more pics in my ride report section on it here: http://advrider.com/index.php?threa...-on-a-690-enduro.1238708/page-2#post-32749062
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  6. SteadyStare

    SteadyStare Adventurer wannabe

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    If anyone is looking for a new video series to get inspired about riding the BDR in Utah, check out my new channel, the highlight of this video is doing Lockhart basin on an 1190R
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  7. IDontWantAPickle

    IDontWantAPickle I just want to ride my motor-sickle!

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    Hey guys, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this but over the last week I've scouted out and mapped a pretty dang good connector route between the northern terminus of the Utah BDR and the southern start of the Idaho BDR. It's all forest service roads and very passable by big bikes, although there is a slightly sketchy section where you've got a couple of slightly steep hill descents (going east to west) that has some sandy bits. But with knobbies and a little skill it's all easily passable by big loaded bikes.

    Pictures will be coming of it soon.

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  8. IDontWantAPickle

    IDontWantAPickle I just want to ride my motor-sickle!

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  9. Randy_13

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    Hey guys, wanted to ask what the the general opinion is of the La Sal pass descent if you are going S to N. I think people should be warned that it is also likely an expert section. I found myself wondering how in the heck you would take a 1200 down that. My girlfriend and I were 2up on my 650 Sertao and elected to do La Sal pass vs Lockhart Basin since that is labeled expert and I've seen plenty of great footage that confirms expert (next trip when I'm solo on my CRF250). The south side climb was a piece of cake but then came the descent and I had to have her walk down a lot of it. Took us quite some time as you could imagine. It is extremely steep and covered with big loose rock on top of small loose pebble. I found the bike sliding down the trail with wheels locked when trying to brake. That big rock on top of loose pebbles would only get pushed when trying to slow down, which caused a couple of falls. Just the weight of my 650 on that grade would push the loose pebbles and cause you to slide down which made me wonder how a 1200 could ride it and then slow down for the switchbacks without continuing to go off the mountain. I did a little research to see if anyone else thought the same and all I've heard is that locals say it is the worst they have ever seen it. Perhaps it wasn't that bad when the BDR was mapped? I rode the COBDR as well and all of their "expert 4x4" sections were nothing compared to descending the North side of La Sal Pass in my opinion. FWIW I'm a regular dirt bike rider and was 2up with her for UT, ID, and CO BDRs and that was hands down the hardest section I've ever had to do on my 650. Now on my CRF it would have been a different story :-)
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  10. KiloGraham

    KiloGraham Been here awhile

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    La Sal is most definitely 100% an expert section. I have many years racing hare scrambles in a +30/+40 expert class so I thought taking my S10 would be no problem but I was mistaken. I would not do it again on anything other than a pure dirt bike.

    The rest of the UTBDR (except maybe Lockhart (didn't test that)) is fine on big bikes though....
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    Randy_13 n00b

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    Couldn't agree more.
  12. IDontWantAPickle

    IDontWantAPickle I just want to ride my motor-sickle!

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    Aw man, now you guys are making me regret skipping it after doing Lockhart.
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  13. wbbnm

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    You might want to consider Geyser Pass as an alternative to La Sal. This route is north of the BDR. I have done it a few times on a KLR and a 690. It is a nice scenic fun ride.

    I hear there is construction on the loop road which might make getting there difficult right now.
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    SteadyStare Adventurer wannabe

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    Here's my next episode of my Utah rides, doing the white rim trail. It's a little detour off the BDR, but worth it.

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  15. Sparrowhawk

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    I just want to reinforce the warnings on the Butler map about some of the stretches being impassible during wet weather. Our party of three talented riders on KTMs headed out of Wellington the last week of July with big smiles on our faces after being challenged and playing in the sand and fesh fesh beyond Green River. The weather was mostly hot/warm and sunny but there were occasional storm clouds and showers that would roll through. We camped not too far beyond Pig Head Rock and had some overnight rain.

    The next morning gave us a light mist and we continued on but all was good until we crossed a cattle guard at the point labeled Indian Head on the http://ridebdr.com/UTBDR interactive map. Within five yards the first 990 went down followed shortly by the second. The mud was slippery as Hell. It was difficult to walk on much less ride, but the real problem was it sticking to the tires and packing the front fender to the point it would stop turning. Same thing with the rear and the swing arm. The next 500 yards, which took several hours, resulted in two bad knee injuries caused during falls and a destroyed clutch. While we were playing in the mud a couple of 4-wheel drive pickups drove through and they were struggling to stay on the road.

    Lockhart Basin and La Sal were cake. The mud on Reservation Ridge ended our trip.

    (Note to KTM 990 riders - if you run into mud there are only eight bolts holding on the front fender and it comes off easily.
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  16. NMTrailboss

    NMTrailboss Team Dead End

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    +1 to this...

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    This episode in mid-July cost us two hours of digging mud out of wheels, swingarm, countershaft cover and chain and $15 at the next town's car wash. Could barely stand up on the road. Chain packed with mud so tight that bike quit rolling and had to shut it down before the clutch started to burn up. This happened after maybe 4-5 minutes of a light drizzle. This stuff is real!! :deal
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  17. ABarbee

    ABarbee (JKL) Just Keep Living!

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    Dang! Five of us from Seattle area are shipping our bikes to Vegas this weekend and flying there September 7th to start the ride up and over to Mexican Hat. Thanks for the added warning because I have a 990r that has a can do attitude :) and Konflict Motorsports is doing a major Suspension upgrade and High Fender add! So stoked about the trip!
  18. Sparrowhawk

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    It's a great ride, at least as far as Soldier Summit. I'll finish the rest some day.

    If you have the time I highly recommend doing the White Rim and maybe a bit of Slick Rock while you're in the neighborhood. Both are unique experiences for anyone used to areas like Gifford Pinchot and Moab is great fun for a couple of evenings.
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    ABarbee (JKL) Just Keep Living!

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    I love Gifford Pinchot bombed them dirt/paved roads many times! Fly fished the Kickitat River and Skied down Mt Adams many times! Beautiful Country! However this will be my first time to Moab or any part of the UTBDR. Been to SLC many times for business travel though.
  20. dickensheets

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    OK guys just finished the UTbdr. Super Tenere.

    Terrific ride overall.

    Skipped the expert section called Lock Hart.

    However: the la sal portion was not fun for me. Im not the worlds worst rider. I did CO NM AZbdr with little trouble. But I felt like the UT map should say "this sucks on any bike over 300lbs". I fortunately had another person with me and if I didnt I would still be walking.

    I know trails change daily with rain and wind but Butler should upgrade this section for safety sake. This section IS NOT big bike friendly.

    If you go take a friend and water. lots of water.

    Cheers, Ryan
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