Next in the BDR series - UTBDR

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by eakins, Aug 13, 2011.

  1. eakins

    eakins Butler Maps

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    The High Uintas can see a ton of snow.
    Those roads are lower but not that much.
    Try it and divert north to connect roads if needed.
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  2. GF-kam

    GF-kam Been here awhile

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    Hi eakins,

    Hope all is well. I originally found out about this route through one of your maps if I am not mistaken. Road it back in 2016. I guess best to ride it later in season; much later than May. Thanks again and good to hear from you.

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  3. eakins

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    Yep those dirt roads are shown on our UT state map. I added them there myself with the intention of people connecting BDRs.

    Infact I've add certain dirt roads to all of our state maps to use a connection routes for our BDR maps. I look at all of our maps as an inner connected web of potential tours.
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  4. GF-kam

    GF-kam Been here awhile

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    :clap Thanks ! Like what you guys do.

    Last two years we navigated back to truck ( starting point ) using your maps ( dirt routes ). The way I found out about this Uinta-Wasatch Cache / Ashley National Park segment is from my 2016 ride. I used your Map to navigate from Jackson/ WY from Alpine, to Kemmerer/WY, to Mountain View, and then across UWC National Park to Dutch John.

    Like you said great way to create a loop between UTBDR and COBDR.

    I am planning to use more of your handy Butler Map routes for 2018 spring trip.
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    319182BE-3C89-4E92-8B3E-8564061983BE.jpeg Hey inmates..... I’m thinking of riding the UTBDR in September 2018 possibly looking for someone to ride with. I’m an intermediate rider, just turned 50, aboard a 2011 Husqvarna TE630. Anyone else looking to tackle it around this time?
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  6. BrokenHalo

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    What's the story on the red section at the start of Sec 5 just south of Bald Mtn Pass? Is this consider a hard, "Expert", section or just an alternate for primitive camping?

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    The red section is a short technical spur ( expert only) Heading north is up hill /rocky more difficult . I have successfully conquered this on my GS 800 (north) .. Going south would be easier as it is down hill but still could be a challenge for some
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  8. nwcolorider

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    After Dutch John, head south to Dinosaur National Park. Ride the bench road to Elk Springs. Of if real adventurous, go up to three corners, Adobe Town and to Baggs Wy. I have numerous tracks on my page at http://nyoast.weebly.com/ it is not to organized but there is stuff from Evanston to Manila, Dutch Jon east and south. Southern WY
    On Snotell it is looking pretty dry in the Uintahs this winter.
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    Thanks. I'll check it out.
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    Shamelessly borrowing another inmate's picture (posted here earlier), this is the hardest section of that particular "expert only" alternate.

    It's a bunch steeper than it appears here and I would advise against stopping as getting the needed traction to restart is difficult. If you have the right bike and skill for it, I suggest standing up and powering up that section at a good clip. This most difficult part lasts but a mere 100 yards or so, but the approach to it will already be plenty rocky, so you'll get a taste of what's to come.
    BUT, I think it's a fun route and a nice change from the easier dirt/blacktop sections in that area.

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    Here's another borrowed pic of smoother sections of that alternate route.

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    Thanks - I read every page and missed this. All I could find on the hard sections was about Lockhart Basin.

    Some other questions - I really want to do a side trip to the White Rim Trail. Being about 140 miles I would normally say that's doable in a day. Will that be the case or is that not enough time to check things out?

    And, we'll likely being coming through on the weekend of Labor Day. I don't want to lock us into having to be there on a certain day - Are pretty much screwed on getting a campsite at one of the campgrounds in Canyon Lands NP?
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    The White Rim Trail is normally done in a day on a motorcycle with time for several picture stops. Very nice ride. I believe you need a permit these days.
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    Thanks.
    Yes, a permit is required.
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    So, as already stated, a permit is now required. You just go the visitor center at the top of Island in the Sky (ranger station) and ask for one. It's free, BUT they only give out a certain number per day (can't remember the quantity off hand), so if it's a busy weekend you would want to be at the visitor center as early as possible to assure you don't miss out. I suggest you make a camping reservation at the Dead Horse State park which is within a few miles from the Island in the Sky visitor center. When you sign for the permit, promise the nice ranger that you'll only go the speed limit of 15MPH and that you can lift up your own bike in case it falls over (they'll ask you).
    But yes, you can easily make the WRT in a day, especially if your camp up there and get up before 10 AM.
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    I usually cheat and ride with one of the Rangers but I’m pretty sure you can call the Ranger station from town and get permitted over the phone. This would save you a bunch of time and make it easier to ride it counterclockwise, which is my preferred direction.
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    Colorado Uli Must I?

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    Oh, I’ll have to call them and ask if that possible. That would be great
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    I am also planning to ride the UTBDR in 2018, leaving CA late Sept and expecting to be in Mexican Hat by end Sept. Then ride the whole thing north. I'd say I'm also an intermediate rider on this type of bike (at least right now, will have some trips under my belt before Sept). Some experience in Baja and Mojave, been riding trials for a few years. Late middle age. Riding a KLR650 with all the mods needed for this sort of trip.
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    QUESTION: A lot of what I've read/seen on the southern section says roads may be impassable if it rains. Once the road gets like that (goopy slick clay mud), after the rain stops and sun is out, how long does it take before the road is passable again? Fast enough to wait a day, or two. Or time for plan B?
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    I have found that these muddy caliche roads out west dry out well over night and even by mid afternoon on a sunny day after night of rain. YMMV

    But the red clay ones might take longer. If you detect mud hitting the front fender, expect trouble. If at all possible turn back.
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    Thanks, wbbnm.