November issue of Two wheels magazine the last.

Discussion in 'Australia' started by gunnabuild1, Nov 22, 2017.

  1. gunnabuild1

    gunnabuild1 Long timer

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    While I wasn't their most regular buyer over the decades, I spent a lot of time perusing Two Wheels from early puberty.
    Peter Thoeming and his trip around the world with a mate [Charlie?], both mounted on XL250s.
    Mr Smith....much missed.
    Although I preferred Bike Australia until Two Wheels took them over.
    Those mags fired up my imagination, got me to a couple of race weekends over the mountain over Easter, introduced me to Bells Line of road [what a joke that is now]
    Got me to MRA meetings early 80's.
    I enjoyed Roothy's column, though I see he seems to concentrate on the 4wd market nowadays, Groff was usually an enjoyable read.
    Ah well, another part of my youth bites the dust.
    The Internet giveth and the Internet taketh away.
    But the two wheeled love affair continues..................
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  2. "A"

    "A" numbum

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    Although I've never subscribed to Two Wheels I have bought various issues over the decades. When I browse the magazines in the newsagents, it looks like an old, familiar friend but I don't purchase! Advrider is the reason I don't buy motorcycle magazines anymore. You are right about the net
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  3. GSnovice

    GSnovice Beer me up, Scotty!

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    Stopped subscribing a little while after Bowdler died. The standard of journalism dropped and the poor spelling, bad grammar and syntax nearly drove me around the bend! Have got nearly every issue from the earlyish '80's up until 2010 or 2011 - might be worth something soon?
    Same thing happened with AMCN - it went to shite after the Woose left.
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  4. Mouse

    Mouse I'm only smelly

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    Last bike mag I bought was one that had my lovely mug in it, posing in a first aid photo.

    Pretty much gave up on bike mags years ago cause the bias was too overwhelming, bit like a current newspaper motoring section's overwhelming love for anything by vag.
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  5. vagueout

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    Given what's available on the internet its a surprise that any bike mags survive today. In my younger days i was an avid bike mag reader then at one point in the 80's i was reading a road test and it dawned on me that i knew more about a particular bike than the "road tester " did. But over all it must have been a battle for the writers' integrity given that they were very much at the mercy of the manufacturers, distributors and retailers of product.:*sip*
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  6. Captain Scooby

    Captain Scooby Adventurer

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    Well it wasn't a big call to know more than the test riders. They probably had the bikes for assessment over the weekend.
    Still, the comparison tests on second hand stock by multiple riders were about as close as you could get to an impartial opinion on what might be best for your needs.
    You would then pick up the complement to Two Wheels which was called the Trading Post and start driving across town to inspect your intended purchase.
    Bit easier these days. You do it all at lightning speed on your phone!
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    + when you can get Cycle news for free in your inbox each week, with a simple subscription.
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  8. jtfbb

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    It was an article in Two Wheels by Geoff Hall about his trip to the Center Rally in 1978 (I think that was the year) that first got me to realise that motorcycles could be used for more then just hooning around town or the occasional Sunday ride to the nearest country pub. Great memories looking back, used to get every issue through to the mid to late 80's
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  9. Morro

    Morro like a ship in the night

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    On the way home from that 1978 trip. Geoff at Granite Downs turnoff on the Hwy and a couple of the bikes at Oodnadatta after a little bit of rain :-). muddy bike1.jpg Granite Downs turnoff 2.jpg
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  10. Cuttlefish

    Cuttlefish Riding to disappear.

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    Geez you can barely see any of the farkles underneath all that mud on those Beemer adventure bikes...hang on...there is none...how the hell did they make it anywhere without them?
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  11. gunnabuild1

    gunnabuild1 Long timer

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    And with crossply road tyres at that ?
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  12. vagueout

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    Must admit that those were the type of magazine pics that got me off pommy bikes and onto BMW's.:*sip*
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  13. PBee

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    Sidetrack did it for me.
    Couldn't read any other Mag after TK started sidetrack, best mag eva!
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  14. GSXR

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    It's all about adventures now. Conventional motorcycling didn't stand a chance
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  15. Precis

    Precis Maladroit malcontent

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    Here's a prediction: there will be no Australian printed motorcycle magazines left in a decade. There will be enthusiastic amateurs, blogs and vlogs. They will likely be littered with errors, factual and grammatical. And bike and accessory importers will step up their advertorial publishing, masquerading as journalism.
    In other words, there will be no local independent, informed opinion available - what will be offered will be a disguised marketing message, potentially biased individual opinion with questionable levels of comparable knowledge and experience - or will come from overseas. While the internet knows no national barriers, motorcycle importers do - so what is offered as tests and evaluations may be on bikes that are subtly or significantly different to what is available here - if indeed it is available at all. Questionable ADRs mean that many bikes sold here differ from what is sold elsewhere, meaning much internet content is of questionable relevance or accuracy.
    You might not know, but both Guido and Groff hold Masters degrees in journalism and both lectured the subject - Groff for over a decade, Guido at Melboune Uni; both returned to writing about bikes because it was more fun. Groff is over 60, Guido close to it. Alan Cathcart is close to 70. Admittedly, Sean Muir is in his 30s and also has a Masters in journalism. Despite the quals and experience, I bet there's not a qualified tradesman who would work for the pay these guys get. Even the backroom guys - the designers, sub-editors and freelance contributors aren't making much money - wages under $50k a year are not uncommon and haven't changed much in 15 years - one reason I stopped being a bike journo decades ago.
    Low pay rates are reflected in the quality of the incoming stories - if you see a spelling mistake in print, please accept that it's a tiny fraction of what came in.
    Why are payscales so poor? Publishers are businesses, but they're not making fortunes either. They reflect low advertising budgets from the (dwindling) number of bike shops, themselves under intense pressure from online shopping, and ad-spend being diverted online - including social media. Current AMCN editor Chris Dobie frequently works 7 days a week, often 12 and more hours a day. He has a family, and a private life.
    If you don't like what the various editors are doing - don't whine about it here, but have the testicular fortutude (balls, for those with English as a foreign language) to tell them. Constructive criticism is always well received - these guys need to hear what readers want if they are to change anything.
    Not much upside, but if you are at a loss for gift ideas for the family, you could always suggest they get you a bike mag subscription and that may stem the tide for a bit.
    I'm amused to see criticism of the occasional typo in print, yet anyone who is particular about using the language properly here is branded a Spelling Nazi...!
    And now I expect the sniping to begin - go ahead, I'm on crutches just now, so feeling particularly acerbic!
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  16. gunnabuild1

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    Motorcycling was never conventional.
    And it was always about the adventures, those photos could just as easily be big Japanese fours of the same era.
    We didn't know we needed to wait until Klim and Touratech made the right equipment for us to leave the tarmac, which is just as well because the tarmac ran out pretty early back then.
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    Woody2627 Grey Wobbler

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    ^^^^^^^
    Close, one is a big Japanese three.
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  18. GSnovice

    GSnovice Beer me up, Scotty!

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    Well said, Précis. Oh, and I did provide some constructive criticism to AMCN about a glaring error on their FB page once, and promptly got cut to a 'read only' subscriber!
    I'm a bit of a spelling nazi, just ask my kids, but trying to correct everything I see on the interwebs will only lead to madness.....just have to grin and bear it, I guess.
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    gunnabuild1 Long timer

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    Ah, noted the radiator the other night and then second guessed myself, thinking those old airheads had racks all over the bloody place.
    GT750 ?
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    :thumbup
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