nwgs motorhome addiction and therapy thread

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by nwgs, May 20, 2009.

  1. andy29847

    andy29847 Dirt Road Rider

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    That is a good looking tote. The newer Motototes are made lighter than the one I have. The VersaHaul shown above looks strong.

    Three big decisions when towing your toad - Lights, towbar, brakes.

    I have some lights that stick on the back of my toad with magnets. The lights are battery powered work wirelessly from a transmitter that plugs into the trailer plug at the back of my camper.
    https://www.quadratec.com/products/...yDsVBfJ7Fn8z2mmPdNqHHVd-EOvvWvsAaAvS9EALw_wcB

    I use a ReadyBrute tow bar. I'm using the ReadyBrute because it was given to me. Mine is rated for 8000 pounds and it from the last century. It still looks and works very well. The current comparable ReadyBrute model is the Elite.
    https://www.rvupgradestore.com/Ready-Brute-Elite-Tow-Bar-With-Blueox-Clevis-p/rb-9050.htm

    The ReadyBrute tow bars are available with a surge braking component. The surge bar is wired to the toad brake cable. They also have an emergency break-away cable. I was able to install the brake cables on my jeep myself.

    Other things in the dog pile are how you connect the towbar to your toad, safety cables, hitch pin locks, making sure the steering wheel is unlocked before you start to tow, and possibly a tire pressure monitor system for your camper and your toad.
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  2. andy29847

    andy29847 Dirt Road Rider

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    Sandhills State Park, Monahan's, TX? Neat spot. It had snowed when we were there.

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  3. barko1

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    That is a good spot in the middle of West TX and I20. Nearby another good one is Balmorhea State park
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    Colorad0 Been here awhile

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    Even if the hitch could support the weight (which it won't) you'd overload your rear axle, unless you have a tag. And even then you'd have to check on CCC. When I looked into it, a lot of MH's that were rated for 10,000lbs towing capacity, are still only rated for 500lbs of tongue weight!

    Unfortunately, the only way I could find to carry two bikes on the back on a MH is to use a dolly, or get a cruiser-lift welded to the frame of a tag axle diesel pusher (needs to have a high CCC). Even then, they (cruiser-lift) told me you have to takes the bikes off the lift before going off pavement...

    The easy solution is to flat tow a pickup and put the bikes in the bed.
  5. InfoManiac

    InfoManiac Always Learning

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    Yeah, I've decided against that one. Our toad is a '13 Jeep JKU. Probably going to do a DR650 on a Versahaul with a Blue Ox connected to the JKU carrying a DR200 on a lighter capacity carrier.

    I know this will be pushing the limits a little, but it should be OK.
  6. andy29847

    andy29847 Dirt Road Rider

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    Fort Davis State Park rocks too.

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  7. jkam

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    Why do you think it's pushing the limits a little?
    That setup should work fine, just be careful having too much weight that far back on the Jeep, might make the front end light.
    The little DR on a lighter rack (I'd have one made) should be light enough not to cause issues.
  8. InfoManiac

    InfoManiac Always Learning

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    The only weak point I see is the Versahaul's stated 3000# tow limit. Jeep with the baby DR on it is probably close to 4500#
  9. jkam

    jkam Nomadic Man

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    I would have something made. I'm sure you could find a good fabricator to make whatever it is you feel would be the most secure.
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    InfoManiac Always Learning

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    I'm trying to figure where the weak point is that makes them keep the capacity at 3000. It's just a piece of square steel with the carrier mounted on top.
  11. jkam

    jkam Nomadic Man

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    Liability issues created by their lawyers.
    Still rather have one made, the one I had done for my little class C, has lasted 11 years without issues.
    I had it made using three attachment points, it's rock solid back there.
    Not sure what could be done on your diesel pusher, but I bet it could be made to handle the Jeep with whatever you had in or on it.
    Peace of mind when having things back there, mostly unseen and ignored is nice.
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  12. andy29847

    andy29847 Dirt Road Rider

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    Side loads and vertical loads plus you have to design for potential problems, not just for normal towing operations.

    When I first used my hitch extension plus motorcycle carrier, the eyes on the turnbuckles of my support chains stretched out. I had to buy better turnbuckles. The motorcycle tote can sit on top of the hitch extension. Heck, you may can engineer up something that uses the hitch tube on the tote for additional strength. The most rock solid option is the 3 attachment points that jkam talks about.
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    FAW3 Old wanderer

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    Jkam: "Peace of mind when having things back there, mostly unseen and ignored is nice."

    ^^^ Wisdom folks...:thumb
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  14. Hannda

    Hannda Short, fat, bearded, old & slow

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    That's been on my list of places to see for a while.
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    Hannda Short, fat, bearded, old & slow

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    What if he put two carrier's on the Jeep - one at the front (200) and one at the back (650) and then flat towed the Jeep. The bikes would even out the load on the Jeep and the MH would tow all that easily.
    :dunno
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    That's possible. I will just need to check the clearance of the front carrier in relation to the tow bar.
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    FAW3 Old wanderer

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    Hell yes!

    For Winter or "shoulder season" touring & RV'ing...I think that this West Texas area offers a lot of beauty, history and fun. Inmate "Cannonshot" has a ride report on this area that is excellent just to get a taste. Fort Davis (the town, the actual Fort NP, the nearby State Park, Prude Ranch and the nearby McDonald Observatory), Alpine, Terlingua, Big Bend NP & SP, Balmorrea SP...all combine to offer a hell of a lot of places to see and enjoy...generally without the "big crowds" that you might find in more popular destination areas.

    The "full featured" RV parks do fill up, especially in BBSP & BBNP...other campgrounds generally have room without prior reservations. The real beauty I think is simple backcountry camping...it just stunning, but generally you need an off pavement 4x4 rig to get there.

    Want to do some guided trail riding on a horse and eat like a king...try the Prude Ranch. They have RV sites too.
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  18. jkam

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    Don't do that.
    Sounds way too complicated on the front of the Jeep, with too much weight as well.

    Have a fabricator make you both carriers. The main one on the RV to carry the DR 650, along with the ability to haul the Jeep.
    Little (excuse me) baby DR on custom carrier on Jeep.

    Do it once, and then forget about it forever.
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  19. andy29847

    andy29847 Dirt Road Rider

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    Big Bend is one of my favorite spots. I started going there because you can ride in the winter. We always stayed at the Big Bend Adventure Resort in Study Butte when I was meeting my motorcycle buds. They have camping, a motel, gas, and a restaurant. Last JAN, my wife got fed up with the conditions at the campground in Study Butte (the water was freezing, the wind was blowing, and the campground is 99% dirt), and we moved to the RV park in Lajitas. The RV park is much nicer in Lajitas, and she says we will stay there on the next trip. None of the RV parks on the west side of Big Bend Park can be considered "upscale". The Big Bend area is a great place to ride your motorcycle or to jeep.


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    Any of youse guys been to Ernst Tinaja on the east side of the park?
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    andy29847 Dirt Road Rider

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    Here's one of the best movies I have seen about the Big Bend area:

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