Possible Two Months in Europe in 2018

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  1. nickguzzi

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    French drivers were famous for flashing warnings, but the little tyke Sarco made it illegal, and police clamped down hard on people doing it. Now rare - in comparison to the old days.
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    I flash to warn for the moose/deer by the side of the road, prove me wrong...
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  3. nickguzzi

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    The French police don't need anything else other than their opinion - and I have heard that they do have people looking out for flashers.
    Perhaps it is illegal flashing within "X" kms of a speed trap?
    I use back roads almost all the time in France, so this speed trap thing is such a rare event for me.

    The new lower limits (80kph) and now privatised mobile enforcement cameras will catch more than a few. This, and Sarco's tricks, all done by govt's of the right.
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  4. NumberCruncher

    NumberCruncher Been here awhile

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    This may have been covered in another post but what app would be best for locating hotels in Europe? I have spent the last hour trying to find a hotel in the 100 Euro range anywhere near Athens and everytyhing appears to be booked up in the middle of May. Santorini is even worse.

    I can't possibly believe I won't be able to just roam around the country and find a decent place to stay most night of the week. Maybe not Friday and Satuday and maybe not on Santorini but maybe I am way off base? Given that I'll be gone for almost two months, I can't possibly book everything ahead of time and that would spoil sponat
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  5. kingorange

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    Here’s a few, known and unknown by some.

    http://www.eurobookings.com/

    Tonight hotels

    Booking.com

    There’s a quite a few backpacking apps European based, might be worthwhile doing research.


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  6. sasho

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    A lot of people leaving in houses have rooms for rent, at much acceptable prices than hotels. I wouldn't sweat it.
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  7. nickguzzi

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    Booking.com as mentioned.

    ViaMichelin.com which is really a full travel service guide. Based on the red Guide Michelin, starts with the starred hotels, then the "recommended" followed by the "Bib" or often newer, sometimes more quirky. Then on to the lists of places radiating away from your given start point.
    Same for restaurants.
    The site also provides decent scalable mapping, routeing, a fairly vast range of POI, weather and probably more.
    It is also available as an app. I have only used the desktop version. Here is the Athens page
    https://www.viamichelin.com/web/Hotels?address=Athína (Athens), Greece

    Europe has far more independent, family run hotels. For many of these, paying the commission on booking sites is not worth while, so they never appear.
    There are big international chains like Best Western and Accor who provide a wide range of styles and prices.

    My experience is mainly France and Italy, Greece may vary.
    You should try to check out local holidays, saints days, national holidays. Sometimes your visit may collide with a particular celebration, and there is no accommodation available. Events like prestigious international exhibitions - Cannes Film Festival, Venice Biennale, Frankfurt or Leipzig Book Fairs. ...You booked last year? We might have a place.

    If stuck and flumocked, seek out the local tourist information office - very common in France and Italy, could be where you are going too - they are there to help tourists like you spend their money, ie find hotels and restaurants, not just hand out leaflets or give directions.
    IME, some English will be found. In high season, this is a common job for language students.



    Europe is not the US.
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  8. Its not Ginger!

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    I just use booking.com and hotels.com, up until very recently booking.com was the better one for Europe and tended to have better pricing, hotels.com has caught up a lot, I suspect some sites will be better in some countries than others, but for France / Germany / Luxembourg / Italy / Switzerland and Austria I have only ever used these.

    I also collect Hotels.com rewards so for every ten nights I book I get one free, sometimes they are a shade more expensive than booking, but for me it is worth it for the rewards, other times they are cheaper as well as having the rewards.

    I suspect (as Nick does) that in more remote areas and less developed countries many (possibly the majority) of small Hotels, Guest Houses and Bed and Breakfast accommodation may not be listed on the internet at all, and some places only put a certain percentage of their rooms on the web sites knowing passing trade will take up the other rooms.

    one Hotelier I spoke to in Austria stopped using booking sites as he said there rules, regulations, commission etc meant it was not worth it for him. I doubt he is alone.

    I quite like it when there is no common language, I have eaten and stayed in establishments where no English is spoken and had no major problems....

    ...when you walk into a Hotel they will generally assume you might want a room, or some food if you walk into a restaurant, it is all good fun (unless you have life threatening allergies in which case it could be described as exciting)

    Phrase books and google translate are also handy.
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  9. Bighammer49686

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    If it were me, I'd look a handful of the many euro cycle tour websites and see what pictures and/or tour destinations and make a wish list. Then you take a look at their destinations, itineraries, and even maps, and decide how to incorporate it with others.
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  10. Pecha72

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    1) In two months, you are able to go anywhere you like in Europe, or even go around the entire continent - not saying that that is what you SHOULD do, but roads are mostly very good.

    3) Accommodation, eating out, fuel, pretty much everything is, in general, more expensive the more you go North, and West. Some countries in the Mediterranean may be exceptions like Portugal should be on the cheaper side although it is in the West.. and Italy these days aint cheap even though it is in the South.

    End of July will be a busy time, beginning and first 2-3 weeks of August are the worst.

    I would not spend 2 months in Europe and not see Norway. But it is very expensive and travel is slow. And you do need some luck with the weather.
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  11. nickguzzi

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    I have had a waiter in Italy, fingers above his head, bunny hopping down the room to indicate the main course was hare. Other than overland to India, that was probably the biggest "misunderstanding" getting food. And I am far from multi lingual.
    Many countries treat offal as a delicacy - I know some people are not so keen, probably best to learn the various terms if you are not very adventurous. Likewise if you have special dietary requirements, best be able to know how to explain you don't eat kidneys because they smell of piss. (as I was told when I ordered some - they were yum!).
    Many eating places in France and Germany have available duo language menus - or pictures of buns and patties or pizzas. Italy still persists in parts, relying on waiters reciting the dishes available - rather hard to get to grips sometimes for this dumb anglophone. Fortunately this does seem less than in the past
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    I'd have to learn how to say NO ORGANS in whatever appropriate language. :confused
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  13. nickguzzi

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    I'm sure you enjoy them mined up in a sausage or in a bun.
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    Good luck with that!
    Unless you never eat any meat product that is in anyway... errr.. lets say homogenised, then it really is nose to tail eating. Not just the lips to arseholes, but the hair too is processed and can be called "meat".

    Fortunately in much of Europe, offal is considered a delicacy - not to be used as a cheap filler - so you should be OK.
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  15. NumberCruncher

    NumberCruncher Been here awhile

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    I never ended up taking this trip. My dad started to get real sick about the time I started this thread. I spent most weekends over the past two months with him including the week preceding his death. So Dad is now officially in a different place as of this past Friday July 6, 2018, at 11:15 a.m.. Glad I stuck around to be with him.

    Plenty of time to plan for next year.

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    Sorry for your loss.
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  17. MotoPet

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    We all say things like 'this is a once in a lifetime trip' or 'you have to do it now or never' or something similar.
    Being in your shoes I know that spending the last days with your Dad is the most value thing you can do in this situation.
    You did the right thing for sure.
    Any trip can be postponed for a few years no real problem but when someone is gone, he is gone.

    Sorry for your loss.
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    I'm sure dad is happy now that you were there for him during the last days.

    Rgds
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  19. NumberCruncher

    NumberCruncher Been here awhile

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    Well it's game time. I will "only" go for six weeks but I don't want to wait for next year and given that both parents are now gone, the clock is ticking.

    I just booked my Air Canada flight. I leave August 22 and believe I have a room booked for the 23 and 24 near Castle Eltz close to the Moselle River. I'll base most of my routes on Collete Coleman's moto guide of Europe. Depending on weather I'll make my way to the Alps/Austria/Italy/Switzerland and make my way towards Croatia more toward the middle of September when it may not be quite so hot. I like that Europe as a whole is very developed and I won't have 100 mile stretches of road with no services. I'll use the web/apps to find hotels but I suspect I'll find many just on my route. The only tourism concern I have is how to secure gear on the bike if I stop somewhere and want to walk around. One options is to book each hotel for two nights. I can leave most of my gear in the hotel room and then tour the next day with empty cases where I can just lock gear away. I think I can find a few lightweight cable locks to secure my stuff to the bike as well. Maybe I'll buy a mesh gear bag where I an sling my helmet and gear over my shoulders. These last items are pretty minor.

    I have my motorcycle insurance, health insurance and it looks like the Air Canada bike shipment program will be a cinch.

    I hope I bump into some of you on my trip!

    Never been to Europe before bike or otherwise so what an adventure I should have.

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  20. GiorgioXT

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    Curiously, the only time that someone stole something from the bikes , was in 1988 in Calgary, when they stole the tent (only the tent !) that was packed on my XT600 parked in Pallisier Hotel garage ...
    Now , seems that UK is the most dangerous place for bike theft (!) .
    I have lot of friends riding year-round and seems that theft on bikes are a rare evenience . Generally in small village and mountains you are safe. less in big towns particularly around railway stations.
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