Preorder open for the GG TXE Electric.

Discussion in 'Trials' started by CDN Rick, Feb 6, 2018.

  1. Yinzer Moto

    Yinzer Moto aka: trailer Rails

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    Personally, the motivation to go electric is not emissions related. I like turning wrenches but I would rather spend my time riding. Not having to worry about jetting, air filters, and mixing gas are all bonuses to me. The noise level is another. This would absolutely open up some urban riding. The last reason might be emissions related but not in a traditional sense, I could move all the other bikes out of the garage set some little thing up in there to play on.

    I don't have the cash to drop it in one of these bikes to be a beta tester but if it gets good reviews, I am in.
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  2. motobene

    motobene Motoing for 46 years

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    "Vaporware" is an unkind interpretation on a development effort, but I get the point.

    Mecatecno is taking it's sweet time, as in way too much time to announce pre production, and there is little public info about the bike. But the same has been and is true with the GasGas TXE.

    The latter is easier to imagine the details in as it is a TXT in the core, with an electric motor - I assume - in the crank cavity and not inside the tower-looking thing growing out of where the cylinder would be. The clutch, 6-speed tranny, and even water pump for cooling are borrowed from the long running Pro format.

    Good luck on finding anything substantial on YouTube or via Google search on either bike.

    Since I posted this in 2017,

    http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/mecatecno-the-electric-breakthrough-in-2017.1114341/

    ...things have been on a low burn (or so it seems) with Mecatecno.

    Then again, what we may be seeing from Mecatecno and GasGas are fundamental technical difficulties expressing a clutch and multi-speed electric.

    I found this video of the black/silver color theme TXE at Lourdes, FR, but it is shot from too far back to provide an intimate working view.

    Notice how the motor is kept spinning during stops, and how fast the motor spins compared to the EM? The Mecatecno too I have heard in a video having the same sort if frenetic, higher-frequency character that isn't so pleasing, IMHO. Then again, it may just be camera microphones' sensitivity to the higher frequently sounds.



    The EM has been around a while so there is far more info. I've even got to ride one as Ryan Young brought one to an event at my ranch in 2016.

    So... still waiting to see how all this will continue to evolve.
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  3. Buschog

    Buschog Been here awhile

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    I agree on the rear foot brake. My wife's first experience riding was a moped, back in the 80s. Rear hand brake on it. Now I can't get her to use the foot brake. It's like she has to learn how to ride all over again.
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  4. CDN Rick

    CDN Rick Canoodia Eh?

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    No need to be sorry. I think its a valuable part of the discussion on trials E-bikes..




    I hope the Mecatecno doesn't turn out to be vapourware. So often I've seen companies dragging out production on units, getting the public excited, then disappearing. Just last week the new Husagren bike company seems to have disappeared without a trace. I know mecatecno already has the kids market tapped but that T18 has got to be getting expensive. I guess its a fine line to walk between releasing early and having problems and never releasing at all.
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  5. VxZeroKnots

    VxZeroKnots Long timer

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    As a younger (30's) and newcomer to the sport I'm excited about the electric trials bikes getting more mainstream. Yes the battery tech isn't quite there and there is the charging issue to contend with but there are some serious advantages. The Alta electric dirt bike has 1000hr service intervals. If the trials bikes with clutches are half that or a third of that then that is huge. Also, the lack of noise is awesome and I think would open up more riding close to home. Also, no exhaust to ruin when tossed.

    Obviously the service interval thing isn't a big deal for some but I do a lot of racing and as much trials as possible and keeping all the machines tip top is quite the chore.
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  6. slicktop

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    The motor noise in the video was horrendous.
    I guess it wss a combo of the clutch slipping and the motor being in a plastic housing.
    You would definitely want a good motor in a proper metal housing.
    Wonder what go these motors are? 1/3hp?
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  7. MT 007

    MT 007 Been here awhile

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    GasGas has had an electric version on their webpage for at least 6 years (marked as "Coming Soon").
    Here is a video from 6 years ago with Adam Raga... My understanding was that you where going to be able to buy the motor and battery and it would just slip into a TXT but it never made it to market.

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  8. Jonny360

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    Curious about some of the more technical details on this. What is the point of a transmission? Isn't one of the main benefits of an electric motor the fact that the rpm and torque ranges are much greater than gas and a transmission isn't necessary, which saves a great deal of weight? I dont believe there is a modern pure electric car out there being produced with a multispeed transmission mated to an electric motor is there? Next is the clutch, I assume it still has a flywheel? A friend rode an electric trials bike though I dont remember the brand. It did have some kinda mechanical clutch but when he rev'd it while keeping the clutch in the demo people yelled at him and said it was bad for the motor to let it free rev like that?
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  9. SportSawyer

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    The claimed output is 15kW, so 20HP.

    It's a trials thing. Same with having a real clutch.
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  10. slicktop

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    Cutter-Motor-RF-Motor.jpg Axial-Motor-AF-Motor.jpg I found these pics of likely ETA motors used by gg.
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  11. Greebe

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    It seems like it might be fun to tool around on at the house, but what do you do about events that last all day and for several days in a row? Bring a trailer full of batteries? Can't see bringing a bunch of batteries and a genset to charge them at some locations. Now if you could ride 6-8 hours per charge, then I am in, but until that time seems like too much hassle. Not to mention much more expensive then what we currently have. I guess I just do not get the electric thing. When I do trips I do not want to have to bother with finding a way to charge batteries when I am nowhere near power.
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  12. Greebe

    Greebe Been here awhile

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    I will admit, this GG conversion that I saw this past year does look fun, and it is very quite with only chain noise.

    Only major drawback is that this conversion kit costs a whopping $6800 + shipping. Which begs the question, Why?

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  13. CDN Rick

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    Dropped by my Gasser dealer yesterday.. He's already sold one of the TXE's here in Ontario.
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  14. lineaway

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    You could buy the whole family Ossets.
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  15. slicktop

    slicktop Been here awhile

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    I might be in for gg electric .
    It would be the electric start Contact.
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  16. lineaway

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    I would wait and talk to someone that owns one.
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  17. VxZeroKnots

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    Because it's cool, because it's new.

    I can't justify affording one and it doesn't make sense for me to own one but I can still appreciate it. With electric they can put they weight pretty much where it's best, have programable power curves, low to near zero maintenance, less moving parts... I look forward to the future with these things and I'm sure there will be many people who own gas and electric and choose the best tool for the day.

    Also there is this thing:
    https://www.torrot.com/es/reservamovak
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  18. slicktop

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    I'd probably be waiting a lonng time.
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  19. Brewtus

    Brewtus Buffoonery, Inc.

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    If these swamp cooler-powered bikes are the future, I'll go golfing.
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  20. North ride

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    Might be the future but I like the sound and smell of the current ic engines.
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