Pricing a dented 2004 Vespa GT200

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  1. BigCanoe

    BigCanoe Fickle bike owner

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    There are some light scrapes on the same side of the trunk. I would have thought if it was a moving accident they would be worse. But not sure how it got the one big dent, unless it fell on directly onto something.

    I asked for $1600, they countered with $1998. but can see going higher than $1800 at this point. I just don't wanna drive 3 hours with unrealistic expectations.
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  2. Blue Ridge Wheeltor

    Blue Ridge Wheeltor Been here awhile

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    I am over 3.5 hours away from Richmond, so i am a little critical before making that kind of a drive. I would be unable to make the trip twice, so it eould require me renting a van and taking a chance.
    Being active on the Ural forum, it is general practice to be leery of super low mileage bikes.
    That bike traveled about 125 miles a year. The carb sure didnt wear out. It was rebuilt because it gummed up from sitting. 14 year old tires? Battery? My bet is it put on most of the miles the first few years and has sat since.
    How can they have maintenence records on a bike that does 125 miles a year? There must be a large gap there. They were probably the original sellers, and maintained it the first few years.
    Carfax? Remember, there have been a few east coast hurricanes since then.
    All in all. It eas too risky for me to put out bucks for a uhaul van with the vibes I was getting.
    I did make a trip a few weeks ago to Richmond, in a snowstorm, to pick up a pristine 2009 vespa gts 250, with 7000 miles, windshield and top case, new tires, battery, belt and rollers, and a cover. I paid 2200 from a private party. No bs fees. Paid the sales tax in NC. virginia is a non notary state and i was able to buy it on a weekend.
    One word of caution... if you are checking craigslist, i found 3 scams on there.
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  3. BigCanoe

    BigCanoe Fickle bike owner

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    Wow you got a great deal! I am asking a lot of additional questions about the one in Richmond, this thread has been helpful! I found another really nice one for $3300 (2009 GTS250 4xxx miles). So the dented one has to be pretty cheap to make it worth while.
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  4. DiscoVolante

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    Do you have some photos from that GTS?

    That is good scoot, mine counts 45000 kms on Odometer (cca 28 000 miles) and running great.

    Check rust, tires, belt, front shock absorber, fuel pump if you're looking for GTS 300.
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  5. BigCanoe

    BigCanoe Fickle bike owner

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    I do, lots. It's quite sweet. Check it out.

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  6. DiscoVolante

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    Mirrors are not from Vespa, they are from Beverly, and Vespa never came with red seat from factory. Vespa badge on the front is not fitted correctly, probably because Vespa is repainted.

    I wouldn't buy that Vespa on first..

    I can take few photos from mine tomorrow with specific details.
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  7. BigCanoe

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    I was going to say that this time of year in particular the GTS 250 at $3300 is over priced for Virginia. It would need to be pristine with service history known and have extras to be worth that.
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  9. BigCanoe

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    Next option

    2009 Piaggio Bv 250, 1800 miles, $2400

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  10. JerryH

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    I got this with 1800 miles for $2200. No dents, the only thing not totally correct is the seat. It is from a GT250. I had to buy a rack to make the top case fit. It also came with a brand new windshield, which I gave away because I don't use windshields. The only issue I've had with it was a failed vacuum petcock shortly after I bought it. I just passed the 7,000 mile mark.

    Doc fees are not "mandatory" other than to the dealer. The only mandatory fees are sales tax, title, and registration.

    I bought mine because after several Asian scooters I really wanted a Vespa. But if you don't absolutely have to have a Vespa, a BV is a great scooter, still made by Piaggio.


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  11. BigCanoe

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    Very nice!
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  12. gogogordy

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    Id be on that like a wet suit....for less than ask though.
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  13. BigCanoe

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    LOL, and this one is really close too. I think I at least owe it a test drive. The seller has lots of info and is very detailed with his responses. I just had my heart set on the Vespa look and feel. This is nice, but not quite the same. I wonder if my size 13 feet will fit on those floor boards. Not sure I like the seat either. A visit and a ride would answer those questions though. What do you feel is a fair price?
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    Yep, seems a bit high for a 9 year old BV. Much of the rubber is due for replacement (hoses if not tires). If tires are original as I expect they are with that mileage you are looking at about $400 to replace hoses, belt, tires and oil. I'd replace them all since with that mileage its clearly been doing a lot of sitting around on garage floors since it is so nice and clean. I'd figure $1,800.

    BigCanoe you size 13 feet will fit just fine. My son wears a 12.5 and he's ridden our 500 (same body) many times. The seat isn't the most comfortable one either but an airhawk has made 700 mile days possible on it.
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    If you aren't committed to a GT or GTS Vespa I'd definitely opt for a BV or similar as they've depreciated more AND you get more bike, so more for less.

    Two years ago I wound up with my 2006 GT200 with 8k miles and a small scratch for $2250...a bit overpriced but it saved me dragging a trailer over the Cascades in winter, and I liked the seller, which matters: he didn't bs me and I've piled on the miles. Also, as stupid as it sounds, we wound up making a good connection and his riding memories are now mine.

    More patience would have saved me a couple hundred dollars but I was ready to ride...and there's something to be said for buying the one that simply "feels right".

    ...reading over this I realize I've offered you no useful advice whatsoever past my first sentence. :hmmmmm
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    Sometimes we learn things just from the discussion, not specific points. You bought the scoot, you are out riding the scoot - in the grand scheme of things, a couple hundred bucks shouldn't stand between someone and a good riding experience. None of us wants to over-pay, but that isn't always as easy to determine with a used scoot compared to new. I don't have money to burn, but I also don't know how much time I get - better to be out there enjoying the ride.

    Plenty of good advice in that whole post.
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  17. DiscoVolante

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    Beverly definitely looks better, in better condition.

    I drove it for few years, Vespa is more nippy and nicer to drive, but Beverly is more comfortable, especially if you're driving with passenger.

    Money is just number when you're satisfied with your bike, few hundred dollars means nothing when you're secure in quality of your bike and you can drive whetever you want.
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  18. BigCanoe

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    Yep the BV is really nice looking. I like the colors too. I am all over the place! I appreciate the input and feedback, its fun to read about others thoughts on these things.
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    The 250 Quasar mill is a little more....responsive than the 200 Leader one.
    Just saying.
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    BV uses the same engine as the Vespa GTS which I prefer to the carb'd GT/200 series engines. I do a lot of elevations changes, sometimes more than 7,500' between my lowest and highest elevation in the course of a day's ride.
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