Riding: Northern Utah or Southern Arizona?

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  1. MotorcycleWriter

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    I have excellent job opportunities in both areas right now: Tucson and Logan. While some may find my reasoning shallow and childish, accessibility and quality of on and off-road riding is probably more important to me than job benefits and affordable housing. Either way I’ll be a lot closer to everything I like to do than I am right now. I’ve been to both areas but have never lived in either. So, what do y’all say?
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  2. 10K

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    Cold or hot, your choice.
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  3. Motorius

    Motorius Road trippin'

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    Probably better riding for more months down south.
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    jtwest Redneck Adventererer

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    yes, agreed. duration of riding throughout the year in AZ. But in Utah, you would also be closer to Idaho riding areas, which is good.
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  5. pranajerni

    pranajerni Been here awhile

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    trees and water or longer riding season?
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  6. jtwest

    jtwest Redneck Adventererer

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    oh theres trees. probably about the same as Utah....and not just longer.. never a time when you cant ride


    update: Utah, 16 million acres forest is about 29% . AZ 20 million acres forest is about 28%.
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    I’ve heard the Tucson ‘riding season’ is roughly from September to June. I’ve been there in the summer and ridden but it was hot. The N.Utah ‘riding season’ is from around April to December with lots of time in the winter where it would be sort of ridiculous/impossible to get out on a bike, though I’m sure it happens.
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    jtwest Redneck Adventererer

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    I personally prefer heat so i typically ride well into july/aug. but i hesitate in feb. in summer some guys will get up really early and ride till 10 for short rides. For longer rides you just go up north for the day/weekend.


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    jtwest Redneck Adventererer

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    Inmate "ridewestktm" spent most of his life riding southern Idaho. He might know the riding conditions south of the border. I know southern Utah is great but i dont recall much in the north.


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    jt invoked my name so here's my opinion. Depends
    crappy answer huh? Utah is a funny (not ha ha) state. Iron fisted yet benevolent on some issues. Much of UT is "they let you ride" whereas AZ, ID, NV and others is you have the right to ride. I have ridden near the UT north state line and found it pleasant and "free". I have also ridden in Escalante area and Moab area, where it's "let your ride" I call it "canned" riding. ID, AZ, NV ... and a few other's it's like you are exploring, first bike in the land. Sure it's not but that's the way it feels. So are you adventuring or a carnival rider?
    Seasonal; I like the warmth and even peak summer you can more easily get away from the heat than you can get away from the cold and snow in winter. I have ridden snow a lot. Let me put it this way - the heat wont leave you stuck.
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    Also: I'd like to say move to either place and you will be very happy, and its not a whimsical issue. Do you live to work or work to live?? Westerners - work to live. I've done both, no comparison. As for your seasonal numbers - Logan you will not find rides before late June and November is iffy and cold.
    I had the opportunity to work for ATK motorcycles (not the rocket guys) I couldn't bear the thought of living in UT.
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    lamotovita DAMN SNOWBIRD!

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    You can ride all year in Logan, if you have a snow bike.
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  13. MotorcycleWriter

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    Very funny place. But I’m not laughing. Mostly scratching my head.

    I prefer being warm to being cold. It is super humid here year round and I don’t care for that.

    I tell my kids repeatedly, “It’s not a roller coaster” so I don’t think I’m a carnival rider. I like to explore. Be challenged. See things. Get home late. Camp off the bike. I’d love to camp off the bike accidentally... just once.

    I wanted to live to work but turns out I don’t like it. Ready to live a little, though I don’t mind working to get that.

    I prefer mountains to desert. Desert to woods. Woods to beach. Still love the desert.

    I used to LOVE skiing. I still like it but now prefer riding. But would like to ski a half dozen times a year.

    I’d like to leave my house on the bike and be at decent riding in 30 minutes. Trailer the bike and be at amazing riding in two hours. I currently have neither.

    I’d like a reasonable commute. I have that now

    I’d like to ride all year. Missed to many screwing around with work. Honestly, I get a dozen nice weekend a year and there is nowhere to ride of any real interest within 6 hours.
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    judging by that input: In my honest opinion I think youd like AZ more. I have been wrong before so dont blame me if I am wrong again.
    Note: Humidity makes a huge difference to extreme temps. I have lived in Arkansas, Scotland, Idaho, Florida, and AZ. The most tolerable climate (for me) is Dry heat or slightly humid cold (or the reciprocal). Humid heat is horrible.
    Ive heard there is good skiiing in Flagstaff.
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    In AZ you can trailer your bike a few hours north and get out of the heat. Good luck trailering your bike out of the cold during north Utah winter's.

    I freaking hate cold weather.
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    Blue Scoot Been here awhile

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    I live in the Phoenix area, for me I would have a tough time living in a place that snowed which would prevent me from riding.

    What type of riding do you do?
    What kind of bike do you have?
    Will you be off roading or just street?

    Tucson is not the best riding area since it's so far south, however I'm biased because I can go literally in any direction and ride for hours.

    Willl it just be you that's moving or will you be moving the whole family?

    I would choose Tucson if you plan on riding in the heat. If not then you can choose either place since you would likely only have riding part of the year.
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    AZ would be the best ass much more riding time. UTAH gets cold AND plenty of 100 degree summer days.
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    You don't have to shovel heat.

    End of discussion.
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    I ride both street and dirt on both large and small bikes. Love the Lemmon. Ridden some nice offroad in the area and the locals claim it goes in all directions as far as you want (to the wall of course). And like someone else said, trailer a few hours to even better riding. I don't mind trailering as long as there is more than one place to trailer to and it doesn't suck. Don't really mind the heat but I can see me riding from 6AM to 11AM in the summer as opposed to going out in the heat of the day.

    I have spent time in Chandler. Always seemed five to ten degrees hotter in Chandler than in Tucson, though were talking 115 in Chandler and 110 in Tucson. (Though those 5 degrees really make a difference!) Tucson also seemed somewhat greener than Chandler with a lot more desert foliage, though admittedly, my time in Chandler is very limited and I didn't get to see much while I've been in Tucson a lot. Replace the thing I don't like about Tucson with the thing I like about Chandler and it'd be pretty much perfect.
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    Logan/Cache Valley is good for off-road riding and not a bad "jumping-off" point for places beyond like ID and WY. The canyon trails and back country road systems are quite extensive. For example, I'm in typical subdivision and I'm 0.5 mi from a dirt road that can connect me to the UTBDR. The West Desert and American Fork Canyon are a couple hours away; Moab five. The winters are long and cold. Most years you'll be hanging it up from early Nov to mid May. Comparing it to other metro areas for DS/ADV riding, I'd rate it a 7/10. The university adds a modicum of balance to the community, but the overall cultural aspects will strike most as being a little provincial (to put it politely). The high degree of social order has some trade offs. PM me if you have any specific questions.
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