Route des Grandes Alpes and others nice roads around

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  1. KryzHatch

    KryzHatch Been here awhile

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    In JANUARY this year, on french T.V, there was a documentary named " Les Alpes vues du ciel" (Alps from the sky) with aerial images of..the Alps, from AUSTRIA to FRANCE, via GERMANY, SWITZERLAND and ITALY.

    At one moment, I said "I have been there !...Hey, there too !... It was in..It was a long time ago (2005 and 2006, in fact) Enough to get back ?"

    In FEBRUARY, here on ADVrider, a member, Don T ask for informations about "Route des Grandes Alpes. It brings memories back to me.

    And when, later, I saw another documentary named "Route des Grandes Alpes" with a guy on a french supercar, aka the CITROEN 2CV, I though :

    "There is a message ! Can you hear the message ? It is "GET THERE !"

    So, in the end of August, the Bandit and me took the road to GENEVA lake. And several days later.

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    KH
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  2. KryzHatch

    KryzHatch Been here awhile

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    DAY ONE

    Woke up at 06.00 a.m and left home one hour later to SAINTES, East on N 141 to ANGOULEME and LIMOGES where I took A 20 to the north for several km before taking east on N 145 to La SOUTERRAINE, GUERET and MONTLUCON on N 145. A few twenty kms on A 75 going south, but east for a moment, to continue east on D 46, to MOULINS. Then on the terrible N 79 to MACON. This road is also known as to be a part of R.C.E.A, Route Central Europ Atlantic. It is a two way road. Most of the time, it is forbidden to overtake. And when you can, well, there are many commercial trucks coming the other way, so you stay behind trucks going the legal speed.
    As somebody said here : "Watch for everything bigger than you, they have the right of weight".
    Sometimes, not that often, you see "Overtaking zone in...6 km,...in 5 km,...in 1 km". And then you have 1.5 km to overtake. So everybody overtakes everybody. And the truck you were following become the truck following you. To be honest, it is less true on a bike, but still dangerous road. But as there are also speed camera, you can't accelerate too much.

    Pictures I found on the net. It is strange to me that the feeling I have had on that road is the same I have had watching pics about that road on the net (!)

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    Just before MACON, I turn south to follow GENEVA signal, and east to find the tremendious A 40, also named "Titans motorway". I drove in the valley, climbs a little, rode through tunnels and bridge. After BOURG en BRESSE, and before NANTUA, I stopped in a rest area to fill the tank. and get back on the road. I knew there was a breathtaking area to come. That were all began. I enter a tunnel and... (Pics are not mine) Both are the exit.

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    Then came NANTUA and ANNEMASSE with the Alps on my right. ANNEMASSE airport and first image of the Alps.
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    BARBIE Airlines

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    I continue to the East via the D 1206 and turn to arrive on the south part of GENEVA Lake, in YVOIRE. Near the entrance of the campground , I saw a "full" signal, continue a little and came back to see "Full ...for R.V" which does not means they don't like Red Vehicles. I came in, get a nice place for the tent and get back on the road to find food.

    794 kilometers for the first day. Beginning of rain at 07.00 P.M ( The rains falling now won't be there tomorrow !)

    I have already been in this campground when I was a kid with my parents. As they were a bit worried about noise from the road, it's a main road on the south part of the lake between YVOIRE and THONON Les Bains, the reception guy told them :

    "Don't worry ! You won't have that much problems with cars noise on the road...because of planes !"

    It is a fact that I have seen several planes. But none during the night. And I haven't planned to stay there during the day, to see how much planes there is, or if I have more problems with planes, or with cars. More interesting things to do tomorrow.

    KH
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  3. GB

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    Quelle belle randonnée! Continuez!! :thumb
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    Merveilleux! Un report de KryzHatch! Plus! Plus!
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  5. KryzHatch

    KryzHatch Been here awhile

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    DAY two

    The rain has stopped during the evening. Get up at 07.30 and get the direction of THONON Les Bains to take a breakfast in a café, and looking for something important for the next day. Then I continue to the East, following the coast.

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    to EVIAN Les Bains, and his casino
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    to Saint GINGOLPH, where I enter SWITZERLAND, following Rhone valley during several kilometers, (French alps with swiss fields)

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    before going east and north to VILLENEUVE. East of GENEVA lake with MONTREUX

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    Château de CHILLON with French Alps in the distance

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    Port de PICHETTE in VEVEY,

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    I continue on the 9 to LAUSANNE, and on the 1 to GENEVA, among vineyards under a sunny south exposure.
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    Last stop before the return to FRANCE, with the Alps chain behind the south part of GENEVA Lake.

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    260 Km for the day, among PORSCHES, FERRARIES, ASTON MARTIN, NISSAN GTR, TESLA, MERCEDES S Coupé, when arriving before GENEVA...
    And even a ROLLS ROYCE Wraith at the gas station (Don't even knew you had to put gas in...For the price, I though ROLLS ROYCE company was working for the tank always stays full!)
    The Swiss citizens DEFINITELY have best taste than the French concerning their choice of cars !

    Tomorrow, the ALPS.( Well, maybe Sunday or Monday for the update !)
    thanks you for your attention.

    KH
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  6. Jim K.

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    You're right about the Geneva area. I've noticed the same when I've driven there. The number of high dollar super cars is shocking. BTW... did you pay the 40 euro road use fee?
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  7. Coffeeman

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    I am enjoying this, so thanks. I was a resident of Lausanne 25 years ago for a few years and enjoy pictures of the area. I guess you didn't buy a Vinette for your route, was this an issue at the border?
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  8. KryzHatch

    KryzHatch Been here awhile

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    No, I haven't buy any vignette or pay a fee for the use of Swiss roads.
    Should I have paid ? Don't know. For me the fee is only if you take swiss motorway. And I didn't, just stayed on local roads around GENEVA lake. But I have seen that Route 9 and Route 1 were on the map of roads you need to pay for. Maybe I'm on the list of "most wanted person", between a terrorist and a hacker.
    KH
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  9. KryzHatch

    KryzHatch Been here awhile

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    DAY Three

    After packing all my gear on the bike, I took the direction to the East, to THONON Les Bains. First, I had pics to do, in front of Hôtel de Ville (City Hall), the important thing to do the day before was to find the CityHall.
    Kilometer 0 of Route des Grandes Alpes

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    I then do my first kilometer on Route des Grandes Alpes... to a café to take a coffee, a fruit juice and a croissant.

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    After filling the tank, I took the road to the south, the D 902, which follows the DRANSE, with only one, but HUGE cloud.

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    I'm on the good direction. ( It was not the first signal, but it was the first time that I discover "it would be a nice idea to stop and make a pic" !)
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    Several rain drops later, I was in les GETS and its rocky monument ( 1172 m and pass n°1). As it is the first, it was important to find it. And I was happy to have watched for it on the Internet before, because on the middle of the crossroad (!) BUT I forgot, so the pic is not mine (Of course, there is sun here !)
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    Down to TANINGES, behind cars, because roads workers, trafic lights. That why I did not stop for this pic !
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    and CLUSES. I remember I was a bit angry, because I had overtaken many cars before, when rains become close to fall. So I had to stop to put my super waterproof rainsuit...And watched all the cars and R.V passing in front of me....And even some I hadn't overtaken !
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    Before climbing to Col de la COLOMBIERE ( 1613 m and n°2)

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    Looking back to the north.

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    To be continued...

    KH
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  10. Olirider

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    I used to ride the French Alps at least once per year. I've stopped...

    Because I moved to live in the southern French Alps. I can now ride all year long except for the snow.
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    [QUOTE="KryzHatch, post: 30702631, member: 232205





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    What a hell of a way to treat a Mooney.

    Great report; thanks for posting
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  13. KryzHatch

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    After Col de la COLOMBIERE, I took the road down to La CLUSAZ
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    In Saint JEAN de SIXT, "Route des Grandes Alpes" turn left, and I turn right, to the west, on the D 909.

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    THONES

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    Just before ANNECY, I found a campground, in a farm, where I put my tent. And I climb the Col de la FORCLAZ (1150 m and Pass n°3), with nice view on Lac d'ANNECY. And a lot of paragliding fans.

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    Then I came back on the road around the lake to ANNECY, for visiting, drinking and shopping. Too many people there and happy to have a motorbike, when trying to find a place to park.

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    Back to the campground, the old man at the reception told me that sun was supposed be there the day after.

    202 Km for the day, almost under clouds... and rain.
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    This is a top part of a map I found later on the Route des Grandes Alpes. Tomorrow, I will get out, "into the white".
    Thank you for reading and watching.

    KH
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  14. GB

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    Quelle merveille! Je vais suivre votre route l'été prochain! Thanks for taking us along.. it's certainly a gorgeous ride!
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    Superbe! Souvenir pas si lointain.... Take care
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  16. KryzHatch

    KryzHatch Been here awhile

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    Day four

    Get up and took the direction of THONES, with a scoop.
    Even Bigfoot knows what "Green vehicle" means.

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    Then back on Col de la FORCLAZ, under the sun. Paragliding fans are already there, and also spectators.

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    Lac d'ANNECY ( ANNECY is in the distance)
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    I continue the road D 909A to the south to join the D 1508 and turn north to ANNECY, on the west part of the lake.

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    In ANNECY, I took west onto D 16. I had two things to visit. As I forgot to turn on a crossroad, and discover it long time after, in RUMILLY, I decided to get to my second goal of the day, crossed Val du FIER via D 14, nice road during 5 km and turn south on D 991, then west on D904, crossed RHONE river (Here with Massif du Grand Colombier) I'm coming "into the white" part of the map !
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    and arrive in CULOZ, turned North on D 120 to get on Col du Grand COLOMBIER. (1501 m and pass n°5.) Yes, n°3 and n°4 are the same pass , La FORCLAZ, I made it twice. While doing this report, I have seen that Col de la FORCLAZ is also the name of a pass between CHAMONIX and MARTIGNY, in SWITZERLAND.
    CULOZ on the bottom, RHONE river with the bridge I took and Lac du BOURGET in the distance. The "White " begin on this side of RHONE river, the west one.

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    I have read on the net the Col du Grand COLOMBIER is known to be a rough climbing in the first part. (Not my picture.)

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    The second part is under the trees, and with less turns. RHONE river and Lac du BOURGET.

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    Looking East. The "cut" you can see on the left in the mountain just behind the bike is the Val du FIER I have crossed few minutes earlier, and I will cross later.
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    As I know you were all focused on the nice bike, I took a pic without her. This is le MONT BLANC, highest mountain of Europe with 4810 m, on the background. He is also two and three pictures up !
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    To be continued
    KH
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  17. KryzHatch

    KryzHatch Been here awhile

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    The uphill slope of Col du Grand COLOMBIER.
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    KryzHatch Been here awhile

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    DAY FOUR Part two
    Sometimes, plan is good,... when you don't follow it. Here, I have followed my plan, so turned back by the same road for several kilometers and turn left to arrive just north of ANGLEFORT, on D 992, to the north, to SEYSSEL.
    What I should have done is to continue on the west side of Grand COLOMBIER to LOCHIEU and BRENAZ and east by Col de la BICHE (DOE pass) to SEYSSEL. (One more on the huge "Things to do next time " list !)
    I took east on D 14 and small roads after VALLIERES to get to the magnificent Gorges du FIER ( PROUD River Canyon).
    I parked the bike, and paid the 5.5 € to enter the Gorges by a footbridge twenty meters up from the river.
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    In several moment, I was impossible to cross each other.
    In front of the two persons, there is a scale of flood. Note that the top of this scale is leaning to the front.
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    These two pics are not mine. The highest date in the first picture is one of the lowest on the second. Not THE place to be in case of flood.
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    The footbridge with a bridge for train...
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    and a face carved in rock
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    The Gorges are several hundred meters long, but very narrow at some moment.
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    and arrive on an open space, but the river continue the carving,
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    while we had to come back.
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    The visit finishes near the entrance, with a building where one can see videos of "Best moment of flooding." Very impressive...Would have said "Worth moment of flooding !"
    I came back to my bike, to ANNECY, and to my campground.
    238 Km for the day, and 1494 km since the beginning.
    Thnks for reading.
    KH
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  19. Olirider

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    Thanks for letting me know the Gorges du Fier. I'll have to visit them when I'll be in Annecy area.
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  20. KryzHatch

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    DAY FIVE

    Get up and packed the bike before I get to the kitchen(...!) of the farm to pay. Lots of clouds but no rains. I took the road to THONES for a breakfast. Rains was already there, so I put the rainsuit (Little did I know I was wearing it... for a moment !) Then east to Saint JEAN de SIXT to be back on Route des Grandes Alpes, to La CLUSAZ and Col des ARAVIS (1486 m and pass n° 06)

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    I stop in front of the Chapelle Sainte ANNE, and notice what was on the facade " Sainte ANNE, protect the travelers ". So I enter the chapel to ask for less rain. I found nobody, but sometimes, in those building, there are people who does not appears to the traveler. Rains does not stop, maybe HE had others problems more important to solve than rain on a poor lonely rider.

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    So I continue to the south, to FLUMET.
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    Then Col des SAISIES ( 1650 m and pass n°07), BEAUFORT. Less rains on me. So, maybe, after the next pass...

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    to Cormet de ROSELEND, via Col de MERAILLET (1605 m and pass n° 08). I noticed this pass while doing this report, back home !
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    Cormet de ROSELEND is there, behind this hotel.
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    Cormet de ROSELEND is up there. The two lines you can see are the road to the pass. ROSELEND is also a dam, and there is a lake.
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    You can see the hotel. The dam is on the left of the forest near that hôtel.
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    I continue to the pass, with a lot of wind.
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    I join the pass just behind a R.V who stop just in front of the signal. He discover there was a parking not that far, and decided to join it, for my big happiness. So I turn back, which explain the bike is looking on the wrong direction.
    Cormet de ROSELEND (1968 m and pass n°09)
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    Vallée des CHAPIEUX to BOURG Saint MAURICE.
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    Took the D 902 to VAL d'ISERE, under heavy rain
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    The climbing to Col de l'ISERAN. Road is the one going down to VAL D'ISERE.
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    VAL d'ISERE et Lac du CHEVRIL
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    Col de l'ISERAN (2770 m and pass n°10)
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    Down on Vallée de la MAURIENNE, to LANSLEBOURG Mont CENIS.
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    I get through MODANE, St MICHEL de MAURIENNE and St JEAN de MAURIENNE.

    Vallée de la MAURIENNE is nice to ride, when you can see the mountains around you. Here, you only see the national road, the motorway, the train line, villages and industries. And the river.

    I get to La CHAMBRE (The bedroom), several kilometers after Saint JEAN de MAURIENNE, to a campground between Col de la MADELEINE to the North, and Col du GLANDON to the south.
    "All the rains that has not fall yesterday, and days before has fall today. And it was good and necessary." That is what the girl at the reception desk told me. Well, she also says it hasn't rain since several weeks. It could have wait one more week, that it would not have make problem to me !

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    Believe me ! There are mountains all over there. Hope to see them tomorrow !
    I took off my super not that much waterproof rain suit. Few rainsdrops during the pitching of the tent.
    270 Km on that day. It has not rained,... when under tunnels (And I haven't seen much !)

    Two nights are planned in this campground. Will be enough...with such a weather !

    KH
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