Same day event longest drive

Discussion in 'Trials' started by heffergm, Jul 7, 2018.

  1. heffergm

    heffergm Long timer

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    I'm curious how many hours you deem doable/reasonable if you're making a drive to an event the morning of. For the sake of argument let's say the event starts at 11am, so you need to be there by at least 9 to unload, register, look at sections, etc.
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  2. Huzband

    Huzband Team Dirt

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    We used to do Huntsville to Atlanta, about four hours one way. But that was in the 70's, traffic wasn't what it is today, and I usually wasn't driving. But I think if I were properly motivated I'd do the occasional similar drive now.
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  3. 2whlrcr

    2whlrcr gooligan

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    I don't go to anything further than 3 hours away and I really have to want to go, to do that.
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  4. heffergm

    heffergm Long timer

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    Yeah, I'm kind of the same. I have one coming up next weekend that's going to be 3.5 hours. I'm debating going. I really don't want to miss events since I'm sort of shooting for a top 3 overall this season, but man... Between my messed up back and the crummy seats in the Tacoma, I might not even be mobile by the time I get there.
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  5. Ccullins

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    3.5 hours is the furthest for our club and we have been going up that morning lately. Anything much further than that and we would go up the day before.
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  6. Norman Foley

    Norman Foley Devotee of the Husqvarna

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    2.5 hours morning of the event is about my limit. I used to do longer drives, when I was younger.
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  7. lamotovita

    lamotovita DAMN SNOWBIRD!

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    When I was a young MX racer, with a day job on Saturday, I got up at 3:30 AM and made the 3 1/2 hour drive to an MX race on Sunday. I got lost on the track and hit a second gear blind jump in fourth gear, landed in the infield, sideways, saw stars, never again. Now that I'm old, and stiffen up after an hour drive, I wouldn't even consider it.
    If I were going to a Trial that didn't start until 11:00 I would break up the drive with a breakfast stop. I assume that a Trial that started that late would be a group check so everyone would be riding in the morning.
    So I guess if it's more than a couple hour drive I'd try to travel the day before, I don't have to work on Saturdays any more.
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  8. 2whlrcr

    2whlrcr gooligan

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    Oh and I rarely go to both days of a two day event. I've just got too many chores to do around home, that I hate devoting the entire weekend to goofing off.
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  9. Manrider218

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  10. jonnyc21

    jonnyc21 Trials Ninja

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    Night before is my preference, then i am willing to go up to a 6 hour drive home. However, my preference is 4 or less.
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  11. heffergm

    heffergm Long timer

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    As an aside, all our events start a 11, we don't group check. Ends at 3, penalty time till 3:30, awards at 4.
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  12. Brewtus

    Brewtus Buffoonery, Inc.

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    Since I moved to Hooterville, almost all of the NMTA events are 4+ hours away. HPTA events are 2+ hours, only exception for both is Haystack Mtn. OHV park an hour away. It's unfortunate, but it has cut into the 1-day event participation. :cry Going to 2-day events is no problem, I enjoy goofing off and the work around this place is always here when I get back. :lol3
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  13. lamotovita

    lamotovita DAMN SNOWBIRD!

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    Where do you get your observers? How many sections do you typically build and are they shared by all classes vs seperate sections and loop for upper and lower classes?
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  14. Nodabs

    Nodabs Been here awhile

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    I've left central Illinois, after working till midnight, driven to Stuebenville Ohio, slept in the cab of the truck for 2 hours, ridden the event, turned around and drove back to be home by 1:00 AM the next day . 9 hours each way.
    Also have did more or less the same thing heading towards Atlanta several times.
    I was younger and very much enthused.
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  15. heffergm

    heffergm Long timer

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    Our series, NETA, is made up of various small trials clubs in New England. I'd guess that when taken as a whole it's one of the larger regional Trials organizations in the country. We typically have 60 to 80 riders at an event.

    Each event is comprised in total of 16 sections, 8 for the lower grade riders and 8 for the upper level. They'll typically share all or part of the same loop trail. There are three (kind of 4, but champ just rides the expert line plus a few extra gates) lines in the upper level sections (intermediate, advanced, expert) and more or less three in the lower level sections.

    To compete for championship points every rider needs to work one event, so some checkers come from there. The rest are mostly people in the various clubs, friends thereof, family, etc.
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  16. laser17

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    NETA also has separate youth sections. Typically 4 sections run both forward and backward. Starts at 10:00am. Not a big turnout usually - too bad as the E-bikes are great for the little ones.
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  17. Gordo83

    Gordo83 Been here awhile

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    Hey Laser, The expression on that kids face reminds me of someone we know!!
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  18. motobene

    motobene Motoing for 46 years

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    I will answer this from a more comprehensive personal perspective.

    My regional club, HPTA, predominates in one-day events that are really 2-day affairs. Saturday about 8 AM is when sections are made by groups of volunteers. Sometimes, as in our last trial, we're clearing new sections as well as marking them. It is critical, by the way, that the loop already be marked by someone who arrives before section build.

    We'll do 8 sections, as all classes ride the same sections. Sometimes we'll throw up another quick 8 sections just for fun, doing an afternoon gate trial separate from our series.

    We group score. I used to detest group scoring, but now I'm less of a nut case and actually like riding in social groups of 3 to 6 riders. Add the social aspect of the Saturday swarm to make sections, and the whole thing is, well, more social! We sometimes even tear down the sections Sunday in small groups.

    Additionally, the last HPTA event will be a 2-day that will employ my latest-evolved survey flag marking system. The system will be re-detailed here in its latest form some time before or after that event (November 10 & 11). The system allows for about 15 minutes of edit time on Saturday's 8 sections to use them again Sunday. Editing can include reversing section direction because the flags are naturally bidirectional, with what is front side and what is back side being determined almost always simply by direction of flow. I can't get into all of it here obviously, but the labor-reduction implications on top of what HPTA does are profound! Same loop run the same way both days and the same eight sections (with some redoing Saturday afternoon or maybe dropping and replacing a section or two) to cover all classes for a two day event!

    With good systems design, the quality of the event does not have to suffer. The last time I had a 2-day event at my place it took a LONG time to set up 36 sections and it seemed like forever to take them all down. Never again!

    Innovation and smart structure - with emphasis on fun greater than competitiveness - doesn't end up burning to a crisp the usual few volunteers.

    So how far? I'll go 11 hours if needed for 2-day event, but not the same day as an event. In those cases where I can't leave Friday about noon to set up shop at an HPTA event, as in being force to drive Saturday morning to do section work, or Sunday morning to ride an event, I put the limit at leaving no earlier 3am, 4am preferred.

    So 5 to 6 hours drive time max. Fortunately going west to HPTA and NMTA events (my ranch is the eastern-most riding property of HPTA) means being able to relax and drive the big diesel RAM with half a brain.

    Having to wade busy highways and plow through frenetic cities will shorten the hours for equivalent burnout. I don't envy trials riders that have to pass through one or more urban areas on the way to events, or over-busy highways.

    Getting up really early, before society starts frothing about, helps reduce fatigue and gives a psychological boost. I have taken many a trip to the family cabin in New Mexico from Southwest Oklahoma for 47 years. About 8 hours (500 miles). It was always such a boost to get to the cabin and a very different world mid day! Losing an hour going west helped of course.
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  19. 2whlrcr

    2whlrcr gooligan

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    So no more than an hour drive, if you were leaving from Rockford? lol
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  20. wheelieman14

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    So when I first started riding Trials in the Summer of 2015, I wanted to experience whatever was available for events located within a 5-6 hour drive from home. NETA is my home series, but drove to 3D (Eastern NY), D4 (Western NY) & D6 (PA) events that were typically under 300 miles from home. Having an enclosed van with bed space inside, I prefer to drive around 7 pm when traffic isn't so bad and stop in a rest area when I start feeling drowsy. 11 AM or 12 PM start times are pretty easy to get there at least a couple hours before events start, though for 2-day events - I prefer to get there and set-up the night before and camp there to get much needed sleep. Then we attended the NATC Eastern Region Nationals in '17 & '18. I'm feeling a bit burnt out after the 3100-mile trip to TN & AR/OK, so now I re-consider travelling much more that 200 miles, unless it's a 2-day event. I like to shoot for 17 to 22 events in a season, with 12-13 being local events and often have a tough time balancing my schedule to build sections for my local club's NETA event and finding time to compete in other events. My fall-back option is to just stay home and ride Trials with other club members on Sunday mornings (allowing me to try to keep up with chores at home).

    I am fortunate to have most NETA 1-day Events within a 2-hour drive and 2-day events in ME, VT & NY that allow camping so I planned vacation days on Friday to shoot for arriving before dark. The struggle with any event that is more than a few hours away is the long drive home, after spending 4 or more hours riding in the woods.

    Slightly off topic: As heffergm mentioned above, NETA has 3 classes (Intermediate, Advanced & Expert) that ride 8 Upper Sections for 4 Loops (Champ also rides Expert with some extra Champ splits), though there are really only 2 distinct classes in the 8 Lower-level Sections (Novice "C" and Sportsman "B"). I've learned over the past few years that the Novice "B" (Sportsman, Senior B & Vintage) classes really get the most riders through their sections, so those lines will get chewed up and change the most. Expert "B" (Advanced) class has also gotten very popular this year and same thing happens to their lines.
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