SEAT - South East Adventure Trail

Discussion in 'GPS Tracks - Northeast, Southeast & Florida' started by NorthernTraveler, May 10, 2017.

  1. NorthernTraveler

    NorthernTraveler Long time Adventurer

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    Both The Southern Route and The Northern Route are here on ADVrider.
    Look in each region for that regions portion of each route. Each section has links to the sections both east and west of that section.
    There is so much stuff in the central region, I made 2 pieces - midwest and plains.
    Used to have lots of pictures too, but Dropbox changed things and all the links broke.

    There are also alternate LOOPS on the Northern Route - areas where there was so much good stuff I made long alts. There is a 6 day long alt in western WY, ID and MT. IF you do it as a loop with the main route through there you're talking 10 days. There is also a 6-8 day loop around Iowa, not as exciting as out west though.

    On the Southern Route, I used the OAT going across Oklahoma - but I built everything to there and everything beyond there.

    The Southern Route's mountains are in north GA, near mountains in western Arkansas, and sections of mountains in NM, and AZ.
    The Northern Route's mountains are in central PA, Black Hills, off and on across WY (including 15-20 miles around 10k), southern and western MT, ID, and eastern and central WA.
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  2. scanda

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    I am doing the TAT starting late June next year and I want to incorporate the SEAT. I plan on touching the Atlantic at Fernandina Beach and starting one side of the SEAT from there. So let’s say around the Okefenokee...

    From that point traveling the east side, how many days ride would it take to get to Andrews NC?

    Traveling west and picking up the TAT where it intersects with the SEAT (around Lafayette) how many days ride. Would I miss out on anything not starting the TAT from the beginning?
    Thanks, opinions, recommendations welcomed. Getting pretty stoked planning everything.
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  3. NorthernTraveler

    NorthernTraveler Long time Adventurer

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    There is a branch of the SEAT that goes to Andrews NC. Andrews IS the start of the TAT - at least as far as I know.
    To get there from Fernandina Beach, it's about 3 days.
    The first day of which has been called the most boring part of the SEAT, but maybe that's good as a shake down day.

    I haven't ridden the eastern end of the TAT since Sam revised it to Tellico Plains - much less Andrews - so I can't help you with what you might miss.
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  4. CloudSplitter

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    scanda, the SEAT is divided into sections of roughly one day, and you would do most of SE09, SE10, SE11, and parts of SE03 and SE21, so figure 3 or 4 days.

    As to what you would miss of the TAT, I doubt it would be that much. There's a reason the original TAT started in Tennessee. I CAN tell you that you will like Tennessee, because when I started the TAT, it began in Tellico Plains. Sam's "official" TAT page has a small map that seems to show it extending into north Carolina, but his comments above that map say it starts in Tennessee, and the maps and GPS tracks he sells don't include North Carolina. Maybe it comes with Tennessee?

    The TAT is a pretty big adventure, already, so I think you'd be smart to stick to your plan. You can do the east end of GPSKevin's tracks some other day, and go or return on the west side of the SEAT.

    If you haven't already, consider downloading the SEAT and GPSKevin's TAT tracks, and loading them into Garmin's free Basemap. For now, just get last year's TAT tracks for free, at the bottom of the 2016 page. Don't buy the download or SD card until a month or so before leaving, or until the 2018 update comes out.
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  5. Yinzer Moto

    Yinzer Moto aka: trailer Rails

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    @NorthernTraveler, I am thinking about doing this in mid march, I see Tenn has a seasonal closure till April, what are the dates on the other closures earlier in the route? In the description of SE04.

    Would you recommend waiting till mid April instead?
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  6. NorthernTraveler

    NorthernTraveler Long time Adventurer

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    Don't remember off hand about the dates of the closures, but I just recently downloads ALL the MVUM's so will check and make sure the doc's are correct.
    I know the the ski area above Maggies Valley still has snow on the slopes until mid-April - at least it did the 2 times I went through there then.
    Most of the route should be fine in March, but the higher elevations might surprise you. Mid April is better, but still can be muddy in areas.
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  7. Yinzer Moto

    Yinzer Moto aka: trailer Rails

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    Thank you. I might plan for mid or late April. I am worried about melting in the Florida heat if I go later.
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  8. PittsDriver

    PittsDriver Been here awhile

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    I wouldn't let a closure stop me from going when I want to go. If you ride a long enough track, chances are there will be places that you'll just have to work around no matter when you go. In September, we encountered a big tree fallen across the road (did tree maintenance and went through it), a bridge out (we crossed it anyway) and some pretty deep pools in the Aucilla WMA (rode through those as well). We didn't do the northern leg of this, just the loop around Georgia. It was a very well designed route easily doable on big ADV bikes as long as you're comfortable riding is sand.
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  9. RockBreaker

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    Just a heads up theirs talk of closing North River Rd. from Tellico river road up to the Skyway for the winter... This is the Tenn. side...

    Also the Tellico River Rd. at the TN/NC state line is back open from being closed because of the Navy jet crash....


    A small group of us are planning ride part of the Seat from Dalton Ga. on a 4 day weekend sometime this Jan. any idea how many miles to do only the big Ga/Al/Fl loop?..... Thanks for putting this route together... Tim
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  10. worncog

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    Section/miles 4/162 5/203 6/186 7/193 8/217 9/209 10/183 11/157 YMMV
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  11. PittsDriver

    PittsDriver Been here awhile

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    If you plan to do the entire loop around back to where you started, I would allow a week, maybe 8 days depending on how long/hard you ride, how much bird watching you do, etc. If you camp, and are willing to do some stealth camping, you might compress that time a bit. You're going to find yourself late in the day in a few places where a hotel is pretty far out of the way. Bailing out to hotels and reconnecting with the track is pretty convenient in some places but there are sections where it's not.

    Our ride report is on here linked previously in this thread:

    http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/seat-tet-s-ride-report.1253115/
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  12. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    is the GPx file on the first page the most recent and up to date? Are any of the roads affected by the seasonal NFS closures?
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  13. NorthernTraveler

    NorthernTraveler Long time Adventurer

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    Yes, and Yes.
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  14. Rusty Rocket

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    one yes :clap
    other yes :(

    thanks
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  15. PittsDriver

    PittsDriver Been here awhile

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    I don't think I've ever done a week long (or longer) ADV ride when there wasn't at least one reroute required. That's all part of the fun and adventure of it. I carry a good GPS, maybe some maps though not always, and an attitude that there are two things that are true:
    1) My goal is to have a fun, epic adventure.
    2) I don't have to ride every inch of so-and-so's track for #1 to be successful.
    People get way too fixed on riding every inch of some track and it spoils the opportunity for some serendipitous adventure. In fact, I've gotten pretty good at figuring out efficient reroutes on the fly on the TAT, SEAT, Smoky 500 and other rides I've done. Sometimes the track crosses a highway, then meanders around in the woods for 10 - 15 miles, then crosses the same highway a mile or two from where I crossed it last time. If I have some reason to believe that the 10 - 15 miles will be nothing special other than gratuitous gravel, we'll skip it sometimes to advance the adventure to something new/better. So with that kind of approach, reroutes around trouble are just another fun part of the navigating job on the adventure.

    The main thing is to go ride! I often wonder if people aren't just looking for an excuse to not go on the big adventure. Screw it - just go!
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  16. Rusty Rocket

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    I'm more sad that the Forest Serv closes stuff. It's often very passable for motorcycles.
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    On local Forest Service and Park roads, I never go past a closed gate, unless it's to get out of an area I accessed through an open gate, but on distant adventures, I've been known to interpret a sign that only says Road Closed as advice, rather than a command. If you ever do this and get stopped, please don't say "well I'm just following so-and-so's route." That may just lead to so-and-so making their routes un-available. Just mention that it didn't say "Keep Out."

    And if it DOES say "Keep Out", then keep out.
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  18. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    always do just that. I used to ride in Western Massachusetts a lot before relocating. The towns would close roads for the season, much like you describe. You weren't prohibited from using them, but the town was off the hook if you got stuck. I've put on a great number of sanctioned events using local, state and federal properties so I'm well aware of all the things you mention and also realize how easily stuff gets taken away. (please note my signature line)
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  19. disconnected

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    trailer Rails just gave me a call about this route.

    Cool
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  20. txmxrider

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    If you haven't already, consider downloading the SEAT and GPSKevin's TAT tracks, and loading them into Garmin's free Basemap. For now, just get last year's TAT tracks for free, at the bottom of the 2016 page. Don't buy the download or SD card until a month or so before leaving, or until the 2018 update comes out.

    I just accidentally stumbled upon this thread while looking for info about the TaT. This last sentence quoted above may well be the best advice I've read yet. I was just about to pull the trigger on purchasing the SD card but what you say makes good sense. Thanks for the tip CloudSplitter.
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