Sena 20S on Arai XD4

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  1. sarhog

    sarhog Ride far...

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    Just bought an Arai XD4 and transferred a Sena 20S to it. Pretty easy, my first headset install. The whole thing is pretty self explanatory, I'll just post a few pictures of the finished product.

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  2. sarhog

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  3. The Original Crum

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    Looks good. I just got the 20s EVO for my XD-4 to replace the glitchy Cardo unit.

    Looks like the sticky mount fits right, but I'd rather avoid it until I know that the Sena will perform. Was the stock mounting clamp okay to hold things in place, or did you have to go with the adhesive mount?
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  4. Albie

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    Just use the boom mic. That’s all I use in dual sport helmets. It’s the only way I can get the mic close enough to my mouth to work. I use the sticky mics in my regular helmets where the chin bar is much closer to my mouth.


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  5. sarhog

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    The clamp mount works great. Been using it daily for months now.
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  6. sarhog

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    He's referring to the mount for the control unit, not the mic.
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  7. TooWhiteMan

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    I have the same combo, just now installing the Sena. Did you use their speakers or plug in some earbuds? If you use the speakers, did you add Velcro to the cheek pads? It seems like that’s the only place to put them that isn’t under a pad. Seems not right, somehow... they hang on well enough for testing with just Velcro on the speakers backs, and the volume/sound quality is good. Am I missing something? Thanks.

    I'm getting larger (30mm) cheek pads this week, so I don’t want to do the final install til they get here.
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    It's been a few years since I mounted a 20S to my XD4 but I think I used the self adhesive velcro things to attach the ear speakers to the foam in the cut out area for your ears. I think there was just a fabric covering over that area held in place with a bit of elastic. They fit there fine, can't be seen and I don't feel them against my ears but hear them just fine. The boom mike fits into the air vent cut out in front of your mouth but I found I need to close that vent to prevent the wind noise from over powering my voice when in intercom mode.
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  9. TooWhiteMan

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    BD822E78-CD2A-4F05-AB3F-A3D698F3F4E9.jpeg That fabric that resides between your ears and the helmet’s shell is part of the cheek pads. It’s not velcroish enough to grip the speaker’s Velcro. When I get the right size cheek pad dialed in, I’ll see about affixing some Velcro there, as you suggest. Pic shows future placement. Thanks... t
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  10. The Original Crum

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    Take the cheek pads out of the helmet. The cheek pads have the removable "sock" that covers them, which can be taken off for washing. Remove that sock cover and place the speakers into the corners as much as possible. Put the sock back on being careful of the wire, and then put the cheek pads pack in. The thin pad and velcro should hold it in place so that it doesn't shift around. There is enough wire to deal with it. Put the helmet on and check the placement. I had to do this three times to get the placement JUST right. A little tedious, but once they're set correctly, you won't have to deal with it again. Cheers!

    OH, place the foam speaker covers on the speakers first. They'll murder your ears on a long ride otherwise.
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  11. TooWhiteMan

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    way cool... thanks.
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    +1. Exactly as @The Original Crum said. Works well as those Sena speakers are directional and need to be place right in line of the ear.
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  13. TooWhiteMan

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    Excellent. Will do as you guys advise.

    I haven’t used the Sena for anything except directions from GPS and subsequent convo with a riding companion. No music or phone calls. I prefer to be in the moment, fully. Something I learned from a pilot/motorcyclist friend. “Fly the plane”, nothing else matters.
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  14. The Original Crum

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    I fully agree with the phone calls...it places your head somewhere else when you're supposed to be riding. Conversation with another rider feels different because you're both in the same place. I don't know how it differs, but it does. I've been riding for a few decades with no music, but I've just recently learned that it can augment the ride and not distract from it. Just some background tunes.
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  15. TooWhiteMan

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    Maybe after I’ve got a few decades in, I’ll turn on some tunes. I’m too new right now, and just diggin the zen of it all.

    I’ve been riding bicycles on and off road for 30 years, but never even thought about adding music to that experience, pretty much for the same reason; the hum of the machine and the immediacy of the world is enthralling (and vital) enough for me. I prefer live music anyway :^ )
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    I was sponsored Freeride/DH for about 15 years and never even considered music, only the stuff that plays naturally in my head. 400 miles of freeway however could always use a little (enter favorite genre here) in the background.
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  17. TooWhiteMan

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    Proceeding as proscribed, all is good. For the perfect fit, I peeled the top layer of foam off the 30mm pad, and placed the speakers under the “sock” (Velcro adhears nicely there) as directed. Snug and comfortable with good audio (soundcheck: Led Zep, Kashmir)
    Thanks!... t
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