Setup your rugged Android for all things GPS ?

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by ohgood, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    Not sure if this has been asked before (search pulled up nothing). My Android phone (Kyocera Duraforce XD) only has 16 gigs internal memory so I added a 64 gig SD card to store most of my maps and apps. I use this phone as a dedicated GPS so of course I have no service plan with any cell phone provider. My problem is that every two hours or so the phone freezes while it delivers the message "SIM Not Provisioned MM#2" along with a loud DING! Very annoying, especially since I'm already aware the SIM is not provisioned since the phone has told me this message already literally hundreds of times.

    Is there a way to make this stop? I'm tempted to simply pull out the SIM but I don't know enough about Android phones to know if this would cripple the OS (I'm running Lollipop) or wreak some other havoc that would take me hours to reverse.

    Appreciate advice from the experts.
  2. CapeMan

    CapeMan Dirt Duffer

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    I'm no expert but I do have an XD I use as a dedicated GPS, w/ added SD card but NO sim card ... works just fine for me and AFAIK, no sim is required for GPS-only service. No weird messages or "dings" either.
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  3. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    pull the sim card or turn off the cellular radio (*#*#info#*#* to get to the radio on/off switch) . some models don't allow gps usage when in airplane mode, some do. android doesn't care if you have cellular service or not. google WANTS you to always be connected, syncing, uploading, but android is fine without it. well, as 'fine' as android can be anyway ;-)
  4. Cyclepath

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    Hope ya all had a good thanksgiving. :-)
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  5. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    I'm going to update post #6 this afternoon/evening.

    if you have any thoughts/requests for the setup process round 2, please list them. thanks.
  6. Nesbocaj

    Nesbocaj Earth, we're #1

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    Thanks for this thread!

    I am now using a mil-spec GPS(phone) with all kinds of available mapping APPs on it*, instead of a dedicated GPS that actually does less than the phone, crazy, right?
    And for those more frugal amongst us...all for way less than $100 USD :D

    * I have yet to decide on a favorite app, but with loads of storage there is no need to.
  7. Cyclepath

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    Hi Nesbocaj. What kind of mil-spec phone are you using. and how much storage does it have ?
  8. Nesbocaj

    Nesbocaj Earth, we're #1

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    Hey cyclepath,

    Kyocera Duraforce Pro (with a bad ESN from EBAy $75)
    - IP68 certified - dust/water proof over 1.5 meter and 30 minutes
    - MIL-STD-810G compliant - salt, dust, humidity, rain, vibration, solar radiation, transport and thermal shock resistant
    -it will take a 256GB micro SD

    [​IMG]

    https://www.gsmarena.com/kyocera_duraforce_pro-8268.php
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  9. Cyclepath

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    Thanks for the info nesbocja......... :-)
  10. rarepartbuilder

    rarepartbuilder redemption gypsy

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    been looking at the ESN problem /used Kyocera Duraforce Pro's and noticed some comments about a o ring that needed to be replaced and a hard time sourcing... anybody hear tell of this.. where is this item located on the phone?
  11. rarepartbuilder

    rarepartbuilder redemption gypsy

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    any chance of keeping a updated list of worthy water tight phones in some kind of ...say .... 1 to 10 list.?...{ i think a few were mentioned back in post 6} great thread by the way mr op. :-)
    edit:.. i noticed on this site, there is 23 types of kyocera phones alone... maybe my ebay search net should be larger for those low price point phones...:dunno
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  12. DRONE

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    Maybe try posting this in the Kyocera main thread? ----> HERE
  13. marbee40

    marbee40 Some Fear is Good

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    I just looked on fleabay and say a BUNCH of "bad ESN" Pro's. I'm assuming that since we're only using the WiFi function to download apps/maps, etc, that the bad ESN is a non-issue???
  14. Nesbocaj

    Nesbocaj Earth, we're #1

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    You assume correctly. You can get one totally intact, in VG shape, usually less than $100. I wouldn't even look at a damaged unit.
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  15. Cyclepath

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    I need some ....HELP ! And some others in here may need it as well. I will try to explain this as best I can. Please feel free to ask me any questions.

    I have a Nomu s10. It does not have a sim card. But it can connect through my asus hot spot.
    I have Kaspersky free virus checker and it finds a Trojan called "Triada.dl" I can click on delete but it does not delete it. I spent yesterday on-line researching this. Mostly from Android central and xda forums. So far Kaspersky is the only virus checker I have tried that is able to identify this Trojan. I guess it is installed into the operating system itself in something called "Zygote" It seems that a lot of low end cell phones coming from china and Gearbest install this Trojan on purpose to collect info from your cell phone. The Nomu was on the list as well as a bunch of others. From what I have been reading it can not be removed. You can not just do a factory hard reset because it is part of the operating system and will just be re-installed. So I guess from what I have been reading you have to wipe out everything and install a new different operating system. So there is my problem. I would not know how to do this. I used Kaspersky and checked every file and folder seperatly and the only place it shows up is in, "Custom scan, Folder scan, Device storage, System". That is the only place it shows up. It is not in the Internal or external folders.

    So a couple of questions if you don't mind.
    I have locus on this phone and b-router. If it can be done can all of Locus and b-router be sent to my google drive cloud ? I already some things saved there but if this phone needs to wiped and I have to start all over I sure would like to be able to just down load everything and be done with it. I also have Locus on my Asus phone but not all of what I have on the Nomu. The Asus does not have the Trojan.

    Is there anybody in here that has or had this problem and how did you correct it ?

    Ohgood, is this something you could do ? I would be willing to send this phone to you or anybody that could correct the problem and I would be happy to pay for your service.

    Also do you know if Locus will run on a routed phone ?

    For those of you that have a Nomu phone or any cheap Chinese phone I would suggest you download Kaspersky free and check to see if you have this Trojan by doing a full scan.

    Thanks for listening......... I need HELP !!! :-)
  16. chrisjk

    chrisjk Been here awhile

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    I have the same Nomu with the same issue. I only use it for navigation and with a PAYG Sim card that is will use if need be. To get over worries about security, I just use another Google ID I set up that has no personal info. Perhaps in an excess of caution, I set it up on my desktop and payments for the apps I use are from a pre-paid debit card. I have never had an issue security wise with the phone that I am aware of. I did try to root the phone but without success.

    I use Google drive with the "GPS ID" to store what I need - mainly hundreds of routes, trips etc.

    There is so little that anyone can profit from on the phone - that I don't bother to use a pin or swipe password, saves a small irritation when accessing the phone when out on the bike.
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  17. Cyclepath

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    Merry Christmas from me and my Christmas rig. :-)
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  18. Cyclepath

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    One other concern I have and it may not be an a concern but I was wondering if that trojan could somehow find it's way into my ASUS while it is connected via the hotspot ?
  19. Nesbocaj

    Nesbocaj Earth, we're #1

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    Festive bike there CP!

    To get rid of the virus you need to root the phone, google is your buddy. Keep in mind anything that has to do with rooting can brick you phone.
    So you have to decide what is important to you.

    Anything you have purchased via the play store is remembered at the play store, so re-downloads are not an issue. Sure, you will have to reset things.

    I would not have a phone with a known virus on my home network, share memory with any other device, connect to a computer or tablet, cloud or otherwise.
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    Thanks Nesbocaj.....
    It was a Christmas parade bike. hehe
    Keep the answers coming you guys I am going to read all of them :-)