Sport touring input - CBR1100xx, VFR, FZ1, etc

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  1. mousitsas

    mousitsas Long timer

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    As far as I know, you can fit vfr clipons to the blackbird for a more comfortable body position.
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  2. USMC_Engineer

    USMC_Engineer Been here awhile

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    I just picked up a brand new leftover 2013 FZ1 today..

    I honestly could not be happier. I have the blaze saddlebag system and the motech city tank bag with ring en route as we speak (and a tail bag from my DRZ that I will use)…….a cheap and ultra reliable sport tourer (blaze bags are quick release, totally on to back to stock in no time), also have fork and frame sliders, and heated grips coming…..…

    My past bikes were, GSA, Connie 14….and cruisers…. I am very impressed with the FZ1, i'd dare to say about damn perfect for us slighted of stature folk… I am 5'8", and wind protection is perfect, so are the ergos.. with my Connie 14 I had to do risers/wedges, and low w/ nose job corbin seat to get comfortable


    and my god plenty fast…...:freaky:freaky:freaky:clap:clap:clap:lol3:loll:lol3


    Fyi great deals to be had on leftovers...
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  3. mousitsas

    mousitsas Long timer

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    06+ FZ1 suffers from a condition best described as catastrophic when the magnets on the rotor decide to find their way into the engine internals. Keep an eye on that. In my country almost one in two fazers has had this issue and some had to change the motor. Usually happens past the 20,000 mile mark. This is shared with R1's which use a similar (if not the same) rotor.
    But then again these bikes here get probably more abuse than they deserve.
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  4. USMC_Engineer

    USMC_Engineer Been here awhile

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    HUH?? news to me and I've read most every post about this bike in most forums… unless I missed a huge issue..

    I keep hearing stories of 100K+ miles on these bikes sans issues,so respectfully disagree… till I see the hard facts...
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  5. mousitsas

    mousitsas Long timer

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    Apparently it is not as common in other countries for some reason and probably this reason is abuse. This came first in my google search..
    https://www.google.gr/search?q=yama...7.15976j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
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  6. dustin2

    dustin2 VFR800

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    I am a dedicated member of an FZ1 forum and I can't recall reading about this issue before
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  7. szyrider

    szyrider silly wabbit

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    Thanks, but my husband's discomfort is caused by his long legs getting cramped, and not the upper body position. We installed lowering pegs that give him a little more room, but it didn't quite do the trick.

    Debbie
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  8. otoko

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    Congrats on the fz. Interested in the Connie comparo, as I'm 5'7" and am wanting one down the road.
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  9. mousitsas

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    I am very glad to hear the issue is not global.
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  10. mousitsas

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    Another option then is a modified higher seat as well as a particular knee stretching exercise which works really well. If you are interested I could point it out to you.
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  11. i.v.o.

    i.v.o. Been here awhile

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    Don't be afraid of the Futura, it really isn't that exotic.
    it runs a Rotax V990 twin and you can use TuneEcu to map the ECU.
    Other tnah that is like any other bike, suspension, brakes etc are all conventional, nothing really exotic.
    Parts are available through af1racing.

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    They can be found cheap and are great bikes.
    I just bought an '04 with 7700 miles on it and and they all came from the factory with hard luggage. I was shopping for an '07 VFR but this popped up locally and could not resist.
    The bike is said to be very reliable with a few well known issues that are well documented on the forum.
    Power is nowhere near a supersport 1000 but is sufficient and the seat is amazingly comfortable , even thou is not a GoldWing, still plenty big for 2 up.
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  12. dustin2

    dustin2 VFR800

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    Great suggestion! I'm dying to know; how does the Futura compare to a VFR? They certainly look to be direct competition.
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  13. i.v.o.

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    I can't really answer because I have never ridden a VFR, I know I wanted one based on looks(sportbike looks, singlesided swingarm :)), performance and practicality(factory hard luggage, but not all used ones come with them).
    Then I read about the Futura here in a random thread, about it being very comfy and sporty and then one day one showed on craigslist, I test rode it and I loved it. This is my second bike ever, the only other bike I had and actually ever ridden is a Duc Monster 900.
    So I went on all my local rides that I know well to compare against the Monster and for me, for my way of riding it is a much better mount, suspension is better (stock vs stock, the duc is the Dark version with close to 20k already), the handling is more neutral and I like that, I don't really feel the extra weight, but it is just me...
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    Insurance is stupid expensive for the N1k! Believe me I called around. Double to triple if not even higher the cost of the FZ1....

    I almost bought one but luckily got multiple quotes first. It is in the same class as the ZX10! Does not make sense.

    Oh well, love my brand spankin new FZ1.

    :)

    Oh and screw progressive, had em for 10 yrs and now they are quadruple the price of the competition for the same coverage.

    Dairyland all the way!!
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  16. USMC_Engineer

    USMC_Engineer Been here awhile

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    Being as we are pretty much the same size.....

    My quick and honest assessment thus far is, on the Connie I had to get risers , and wedges and a Corbin low seat with a nosejob to make it work for me. It is a long bike that is a stretch to reach the bars. It sits pretty darn tall too for a ST style bike hence the need for the Corbin.

    The Connie was a fantastic bike once those things were taken care of. Def a heavy bike though, the FZ1 turns in effortlessly. It is really a welcome feeling just gliding into the turns.

    As for wind protection obviously the Connie with the adjustable windscreen wins out but with us being 5'7"-5'8" respectively the FIZZER puts you in calm clean air. Very nice as I was worried about this, not an issue.

    I only have 50 miles on my FZ so I cannot comment on the top end speed.

    Also you have to consider the chain maitenance vs shaft, but with the standard center stand maitenance takes minuits thus not a big deal.

    Also valve checks are few and far between with the fz1 and I hear that adjustments are almost never needed.

    And the big thing is purchase price. Thousands less for the FIZZER even with hooking it up with the essential ST gear and luggage....
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  17. VFR

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    I have lower pegs, VFR bars & a Corbin seat on my Blackbird. Pretty much all day comfort now. When I first got it, I had the same experience as your husband.

    BTW, VFR bars & Heli Bars are exactly the same--I have both. If you want a little more rise & pull back, get VFR Heli Bars.

    I ride a lot sitting up, one-handed. Another thing, don't put all your weight on the bars. Use your back muscles to hold you up & just lay your hands on the bars. That alone will make all the difference in the ride enjoyment.
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  18. Gryphon12

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    Your abs, not your back. If you are using your lower back muscles, you need to strengthen your core.
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    Probably true, but at 75, I don't have much left of either.... :lol3

    The point I was trying to make was to not use your wrists for support.
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  20. kanhulk13

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    The Aprilia Futura is a great bike but go for a test drive first. I had one for 5 years and it is quite easy to work on. The engine is great! I was not so sold on the handling...a bit funny, but depends on how the bike is set up. I could never get over the 'feeling' or sensation that the bike was 'falling' into corners. Not a bike for beginners, to be honest (I crashed it 3 times...). Still...the Rotax engine is bulletproof. Electronics, despite being Italian, were fine except I had to change out the rectifier once. If you buy a Futura better to put in a new battery and stronger rectifier. The bike has character! Good forum support from

    Another option, if you do like something closer to adventure than sport touring, is the Triumph Tiger 1050. This is my ride now and it's a great bike that you can work on yourself and 'customize' to your preference. Handling is sharp, but for 2 up you need to change the springs (stock springs are too soft). The Triumph TIger 1050 site is great with lots of involvement similar to ADVRIDER and UKGSER.
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