SPOT has a new Tracker and Messenger on the market

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Dukehunt, May 11, 2018.

  1. Dukehunt

    Dukehunt Lost in Translation Nev 2.0 Super Moderator

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  2. Redback

    Redback Average aussie bloke

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    We have the SPOT tracker, the older version and it works well as long as you have mobile reception, we also have an EPIRB if anything goes pear shaped and we are out of range.

    I guess if you had the SPOT X you could probably get rid of the EPIRB and possibly your SAT phone as well.
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  3. LivingdeadCamo

    LivingdeadCamo Long timer

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    I've not run products like this at all but I thought the biggest gripe with Spot had been the ever increasing fees?
    This would follow down that path but be more useful?
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  4. Dr AT

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    Strange that spot would release a new product that's lagging behind the competition? ( with garmin now offering the inreach mini. https://gearjunkie.com/garmin-inreach-mini-satellite-communicator )

    Ps Since we're in the ozzie forum - does garmins iridium still beat spots globalstar ( it's been a long time since I've bothered researching sat phones)
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  5. laurient

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    No two way messaging ( green ) in OZ according to their coverage map . $250 purchase $20 a month or $200 a year and $20 activation US dollars

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  6. Dr AT

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    Yeh I noticed this as well this makes it kinda useless in oz compared to the 2 way messages that the inreach has,
    Plus Inreachs iridium satilite is much better
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  8. schmik

    schmik Been here awhile

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    Pretty happy with my inReach. Battery life is good and comms have never failed. This is just for letting people know where I am.
    Mapping on it sux so you use your phone for that. Just gotta keep the phone charged.

    Not loving the querty keyboard on the spotX. Just seems like it will fill with dust and break.
    But... if they actually had 2-way comms it's not bad value.

    Also not loving how much the subs cost on spot and inreach.
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  9. 59DEN

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    I would imagine that they should be able to have two way communication in Australia eventually as Globalstar phones work over most of Australia, it might be that they have to have Pivotel sort out plans for here.
    I have to ring Pivotel next week to increase my inreach plan level and see if they know anything.
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  10. Redback

    Redback Average aussie bloke

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    Iridium has the best coverage of all the sat phone providers according to the VKS737 info page.
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    Kiwirich Been here awhile

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    So then Gents,
    What's you opinion of the Inreach?

    Look like worthwhile considering compared to Spot.

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  12. laurient

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    In a word yes . And an epirb is also a big contender only SOS but also only about 1/2 the cost and no ongoing fee's .
    Not many of us go out without a phone .
    Consider an epirb and a phone . In contact most of the time and emergency backup all the time . Plus k.i.s.s .
    While for sure there are times two way comunication while not in phone coverage area's would be an advantage
    at roughly $500 purchase and $400 a year , how many times ? and what is that convenience worth to you ?
    I own a gen 1 spot now but i can see a $270 epirb in my future .
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    It could be worth waiting to see if spot X will have 2 way communication in Australia as it seems it will be a fair bit cheaper than the Garmin Inreach.
    I have an original inreach and it works fine, for me personally the ability for 2 way communication is worth the extra dollars, just for the coverage in remote locations and also the black spots in the WA mobile coverage.
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  14. schmik

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    I am pretty happy with the inreach. The mapping is a bit shit and it doesn't do turn by turn like a navigational GPS but that is not why I got it.
    It was purchased for peace of mind and emergencies. I can let my Mrs and anyone else's Mrs know where we are at anytime. My location is sent with every message. I can let them know we made camp and I am turning it off overnight to conserve batteries.

    In case of an emergency there is the SOS button and there is two way comms with emergency services.
    I sometimes ride alone outside of phone coverage. I don't go hard or stupid on my own but you can break a leg in the stupidest of mishaps. Nice to have a 2-way comms option.

    The mapping on the inreach is really basic. You could find your way using it in an emergency but it's pretty crap. Having said that, it's a hell of a lot better than nothing.

    The mapping on the website / phone / inreach. You can pretty good navigation on the website and then transfer it to your inreach and in turn your phone. Navigation of the phone works really well and appears to use the GPS receiver in the phone.
    i.e. it works even when the inreach is switched off. Unless your phone is in a powered cradle you want to leave bluetooth off. Comms with the inreach suck the battery dry quite fast.
    Messaging on the phone is just like any other message app. Messaging on the inreach is a bit painful but you can have heaps of pre-typed messages.

    Being a tight ass, i am on the cheapest plan which is 10 texts per month. Anything over that is 50c.
    Hence i never enable tracking. Too expensive (10c per ping). Instead, there is a button on the webpage that finds the inreach. If the Mrs or anyone really need to know where i am they can find me.
    If i ride a lot in one month and also do a weekend away I may go over the 10texts. Even if i double it, it's $5.

    If you already have a GPS consider the inreach mini.
    From what i can see the ongoing fees are about the same between them (spot and garmin). i.e. too much.
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    At least run a PLB LDC.
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    I've had a sat phone for over a decade, it's been great for communication on longer rides but I've been considering moving to an inreach ( mini?) simply so I have it with me if / when I do something stupid on a local ride. ( my plb is only usefull if I'm conscious)
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