The CRF1000L Africa Twin problem thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by twinrider, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. HCmoto13

    HCmoto13 n00b

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    Hello I Bought a 2017 Africa twin amd immediately took it down continental divide trail from Banff Alberta to Mexico border. Bikes been almost flawless 17500km in 4months
    Twice I left it for 2 weeks and come back to find it is completely dead. Checked battery connections all tight. Dealer says it's normal use a battery tender. I don't have a plug in where I store it so not really a option. Is this normal or just cheap battery from Honda?

    And dealer installed sw-motech skid plate, it is very close and rubs on the exhaust at top front of the skid plate. Anyone else have this problem? I pulled it off to see if it's adjustable or could pace it away but don't see anything I can do. How close is your skidplate to the exhaust
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  2. joeywyn

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    Hi. Yep I had a sw motech bash plate put on as well and it is tight up against the pipes. Not too worried as it would take a hell of a whack to move it. My biggest problem is the high pitched noise that is reflected back up off the plate. My solution has been better ear plugs!


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  3. jmarleau

    jmarleau Been here awhile

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    I don't think the battery issue is normal. I have left my 2016 AT for many weeks at a time off the charger and it seems fine.

    As for the skid plate, I have noticed the same thing you did. I solved this by grinding the area that contacts the exhaust (on the inside) using a flap wheel on an angle grinder. It works but you need patients. My initial thought was to just space the skid plate out using spacers at the front bolts, but an inmate here reminded me that this plate must rest on the frame using those square rubber bumpers. So an impact would be transferred directly to the frame instead of the small mounting tabs.
  4. rigores

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    Good day. Having some issues with the tc and abs. I recently changed both from original tires to a tkc80 from and a shinko 805 rear. The front is the same but the rear is a 150/70B18. I know the B stands for bias ply, but a service person at a shop says the bias ply maybe affecting the 5x5 and abs. I am skepctical on this but am curious. Has any one else had issues after changing the tires or taking the wheels off? If so what did you do about it?
  5. Specularius

    Specularius Been here awhile

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    Have you checked the front wheel to insure it is on correctly? If reversed, you get the symptoms you are exhibiting.
  6. windowto

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    Also, make sure that the spacers on the rear are on the correct sides (right/left). Hint: the shop manual has it backwards;).
  7. Junglejeff1

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    Strait spacer goes on brake side of rear wheel.
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  8. rickh123

    rickh123 Been here awhile

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    Definitely it is NOT normal that battery is dead after 2 weeks, unless you left lights or some other accessories in the ON position.
  9. Junglejeff1

    Junglejeff1 Long timer

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    Found that out the hard way.Lucky I did not warp my rear disc.Took them out to put tires on using my cheap harbor freight tire changer and used my Manuel because I did not notice which side they were on.Totally screwed up my tc and made the rear disc hit hard on slave cylinder.Could not make it 500 ft without my tc giving me a flashing code and not working.At least the default let me still use the rear brake.Such a easy mistake to make also.
  10. Drum Dog

    Drum Dog Been here awhile

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    I made the same mistake and this board and I think you straightened me out before I rode it. I couldn't believe the manual was wrong but it is.
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  11. craighkzn

    craighkzn Been here awhile

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    Quick question guys....started my bike this morning and had a strange idle issue..seemed to wander up & down between normal level and then up over 2000rpm, then back down...went away when warmed up....anyone else had this ?? Any solutions??
  12. ya(x2)

    ya(x2) Long timer

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    Hope you'll soon identify the cause. I'll check air filters + spark plugs but you probably did already.

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  13. Motociclo

    Motociclo Been here awhile

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    The idle is controlled by intake air control valve. Maybe sticking a bit. Check silly stuff by making sure throttle is closed.
    I have read about some Af twins that have had coolant temp sensor replaced also. It is important for fuel and idle control during warm up.
    Worth checking connections and silly things before delving to deep.
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  14. Backcountry Adv Moto

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    I've been reading the thread, and just wanted to add, I'm on my second stand. The first one bent when strapping the bike down in my tow hauler. Bike was straight up when strapped, but the side stand was left down with no wait on it. The bike bounced on the suspension and bent the stand on the Alaska highway. My second stand is now bent from coming down on a rock in southern Utah a few weeks ago. In my opinion it is weak and needs to be updated or modified.
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  15. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    In the first incident, sounds like the bike wasn't cinched down strongly enough and repeatedly bounced off the lowered stand. Not bent though normal usage.

    I'm trying to picture how the second bend happen. The stand was in the folded up position but slammed down on rocks while you were riding?
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  16. neanderthal

    neanderthal globeriding wannabe

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    Sigh.


    Lets go through this again. We'll use your scenario with the bike on a trailer and it's pogo- ing onto the stand.

    If the stand is strengthened, it doesn't give, then forces are transferred where? Sump? Crankcase? That part breaks and you'd be here complaining. OK, that part gets strengthened, then those sames forces are transferred where? Ok, now that part is strengthened and now the forces are being transferred where? Fast forward to the end.

    Ok, we've strengthened everything that can be affected by forces acting on the sidestand. Now the bike weighs 600lbs. Now it needs stronger shocks. Stronger springs. Bigger brakes. A stronger frame. Now its 720lbs. Errbody complaining about it being a porker. And underpowered.

    And ... scene.
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  17. jyrays

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    Mine had "high idle" after maintenance, took it back and it was normal. Didn't ask what they did though :)
  18. craighkzn

    craighkzn Been here awhile

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    Started bike again twice from dead cold....Idles perfect...Strange, but issue is gone.....Maybe bad fuel....
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  19. Backcountry Adv Moto

    Backcountry Adv Moto n00b

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    Agreeed I didn't have the bike tied down as tight as I should. I was worried I'd blow fork seals from having it as squared as I did. Intraveled with the bike in the toybhauler for a year and did 30k miles and all 50 states so tying it down wasn't new to me. Also understand in a 45ft 5th wheel tow hauler everything in the rear is magnified dramatically on rough roads due to the placement of the triple axles on the trailer. Give kinda of a catapult affect. You would be surprised what gets tossed around on the Alaska highway lol! Second time, the stand was in the up position, and yes I came down off the side of a large rock and hung it forcing it to bend up and out. I know it's kinda a freak think, but I also ride the bike like a 450 DS so something like this this is bound to happen again. I just hope it doesn't happen again in baja in November when I head down to watch the 50th Anniversary race and ride to Cabo and back.
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  20. mcmann

    mcmann Motorcycle ADV enthusiast

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    Try the Soupys side stand:

    http://soupysperformance.com/honda/...adjustable-lowering-kickstand-side-stand.html

    Our BILLET Africa Twin CRF1000L (2016-2017) lowering kickstands use stainless steel hardware and are CNC machined from SOLID ALUMINUM. They are capable of stock length to 3 inches shorter and are the strongest, best looking on the market today!
    Product Code: K-123

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