Three Rivers Petroglyph (NM) Route Info

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  1. dcwilcox

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    I've got an upcoming ride (May '18) through NM and CO and I'm wondering about a side trip from Ruidoso over to the Three Rivers Petroglyph site.

    I know I could ride the pavement and take 70 over to 54, but I'm wondering if there is a viable off-road route?

    I drew up this one in Basecamp, but I am looking for local knowledge to know if it is feasible for a mediocre rider. This follows BLM11 to Pack Trail to Golondrina Rd to Three Rivers Rd.

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  2. Gillus

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    I don't think so, your map shows a road or trail and there probably is one and more. As far as I know the only public access to Three Rivers is off hiway 54, paved and dirt and goes thru a few arroyos and is beeeaaauuuutifulback in there. Three Rivers is off the west side of Sierra Blanca and is kinda remote, I have never been all the way back in there as I have been by myself.

    BUT, your road/trail goes thru the Mescalero Indian Reservation and is "off limits". Don't go there unless you have permission or access. :deal
    The only road thru the Rez is 244, a fun paved (NM State hiway I think) road from hiway 70 between Tularosa and Ruidoso to hiway 82 near Cloudcroft. Everything else is "off limits".
    There are several dirt roads/two tracks that skirt the southern Rez boundaries, La Luz Canyon and one to the north off 244 to 16 Springs. I know of nothing north off hiway 70 as it goes thru the heart of the Rez and Mescalaro just east of Bent NM.

    I tried to find a route from Carrizozo to Three Rivers to hiway 54 and couldn't, not sure it is private ranches or the Rez or what.
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    Thanks for the intel. I'm coming S to N on the NMBDR into Ruidoso and was just looking for a off-road route over to the petroglyph site. I'll look to see if there are reservation permits available and if not . . . it's sure easy enough to just take 70 over to 54 to access three rivers.
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    Check out the White Oaks ghost town if you have time when you go through Carrizozo, it's a quick little detour to the NE of town. Not really a ghost town cause some folks still live there but that typical around here, it's cool to see and there's an outdoor bar (if it's open when you go through) for a cold one.
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    I have a gas station marked in Carrizozo, I'll make a point of having a look around while I'm there! Thanks!
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    Your route looks really interesting. I don't know what they would say, but it might be worthwhile to ask the Apaches for permission to ride it.

    If you have to go up 54, you can ride the dirt road next to the railroad. It is right next to the hiway, but is still kind of fun to ride.
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    There is a dirt road just north of Capitan that will take you into White Oaks, not a long ride but...... that same dirt road goes north into Ancho and back to 54 but I've never been there. Both of these can get you back to Carrizozo.
    There is a dirt road that goes from the paved road on the north side of the Capitan mountains (Capitan to Roswell) that goes north to another road that goes to Corona, an oil field road or something. Keep in mind this is all in remote areas.
    I will stop with recommendations or you will spend a week :ricky around here.
    Do your research on riding on the reservation :amazon:hung:bash :fight:gun2:nono from what I have heard. I know of one ATV poker run the Mescalero did up there as a fundraiser one time but nothing else.
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    I've heard Mescalero's can be quite the jerks when they catch someone riding on the res.
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    The Mescalero reservation is off limits. There is a very good chance, even if you did make it some of the way through, that you would encounter locked gates. I have a place in the NF near Cloudcroft, and have wandered on to the reservation a few times through old abandoned trails from the NF side. I would not want to get caught, that is for sure.

    The best option is to come back the way you came from. The route going back down Labrocita canyon is the best part of that section. We have been riding it for many years until someone decided to make a Discovery Route out of it. We have coasting contests to see how far we can coast down on our Adventure bikes. You can go a long way--several miles just coasting.

    You could also just ride 244 back to Cloudcroft, and from there go down to High Rolls and turn off on Firehouse Rd, which turns into a dirt road that skirts the western rim of the mountains and gives you a really nice view of White Sands the whole time. From there go into La Luz, and you can route a way that dumps you out on the highway near the big giant Pistachio.

    Or, before you get into Cloudcroft, about five miles out on 244, take a right onto the dirt Forest Road. It is in the NF, but on your right you are skirting the reservation. It is right there. You can ride dirt almost all the way to La Luz that way.

    Sorry I don't keep up with the official names or numbers of most of the roads, but they are all on the MVUM for the Sacramento portion of the Lincoln Forest. Stop at the Ranger Station near Cloudcroft and get a copy.
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    This is the LaLuz Canyon road and has a sign on 244 on a sharp corner, house on the corner as well. +1 on this route down off the hill.
    Great round trip from Alamo is up LaLuz and down Karr Canyon or visa versa with a trip thru Burro Ave in Cloudcroft.
    The Queso burger at the Western is good :dukegirl.
    The chicken strips at Big Daddy's are good :dukegirl.
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    The Mad Jack sandwich is the best though, at Mad Jacks. He needs a separate line for locals! Big Daddy's fried chicken is really good too--pressure fried and delicious. Daves has good burgers and now he added a little tap room too.

    To the original poster--do you just have a burning desire to go to Ruidoso? Maybe you want to shop a dozen tee shirt shops in a six block stretch while enjoying an over-priced ice cream cone? I would just stay in Cloudcroft. It is dual sport heaven with a unique mixture of true mountain and desert all within 20 miles.
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    Just a follow up . . . I did write to the Mescalero Tribal Council asking for permission, permit, etc. to be able to ride the route I posted. I was told BIA 11 doesn't go through (even though it looks like might). Not to worry though, they said it wasn't permitted/legal even if it did.

    Thanks for all the feedback and alternative options . . . I sure like options!
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    thanks for the follow up. Too bad you can't do that ride. It looked like a really interesting route.

    If you are into petroglyphs, Three Rivers is a good place to go. They have lots of good ones, including a few Ancient Aliens looking ones.
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