Tiger 800 XC Seat options

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by Rockhopp3r, Nov 10, 2014.

  1. Rockhopp3r

    Rockhopp3r Been here awhile

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    I'm looking to replace rider and pillion seats for my 2013 Tiger 800 XC. I did a 400 mi day on Saturday and after 250 or 300 miles, I was not comfortable.

    I'm closely looking at Sargent to replace the OEM seat but I'm having a hard time finding info that compares it to the OEM seat that comes with the Tiger. Any experiences with it?

    Are there other options to consider?

    I've heard good things about Seat Concepts, but I'm unsure if it will be enough comfort.

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  2. Crab bait

    Crab bait Been here awhile

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    I'm pretty happy with seat concepts tall
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  3. mcridr

    mcridr Adventurer

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    +1 on Seat Concepts
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  4. Wandering Dane

    Wandering Dane We are the luckiest guys

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    After a 3,500-mile road trip with the stock seat and a Bead Rider (which is a major improvement in itself), I ordered a Sargent and am very happy. Should have done that much earlier.

    The foam is considerably firmer than stock and there is room to move forward and back so you don't get a locked into one position as with the stock seat. In addition, the Sargent seat has a bit of 'tractor seat' shape which spreads the load over a wider area. I only ride solo so I got just the rider's seat.

    In the past, I bought a Sargent Seat for an early Ducati Monster, had to send it back to make it more flat, but that seat, too, was great.
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  5. K1W1

    K1W1 Long timer

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    I have to say that coming from a K7 V-Strom so far the Tiger seat has been great for me.
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  6. BryanCO

    BryanCO CO Rider

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    I had a Rick Mayer custom leather seat on my Tiger (and previousky on my last Multi) and loved it. Did a 3800 miles, 7 day ride in Aug and the seat paid huge dividends, Last year, Rick had a Black Friday sale - hopefully again this year as I need a seat for my recently acquired PP. Rick also has had some delivery issues but does produce a quality product.
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  7. Rockhopp3r

    Rockhopp3r Been here awhile

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    It is unfortunate. I really like his product's quality, but after reading what folks have to say about his delivery issues, I discarded this option.
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  8. NOTAGAIN

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    Very happy with Sargent on my Tiger 800. Have front and rear. They were really helpful when I called as far as different covers, etc. My better half is happy with it as well which is all that really :Dcounts.

    good luck!
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    Anyone have any experiences they would like to talk about in regards to a Seat Concepts seat?
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  10. Black Rhino

    Black Rhino Hopelessly optimistic cat herder

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    While were at it , anyone used the tall/hi kit from them and want post pics and experience?
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  11. Rockhopp3r

    Rockhopp3r Been here awhile

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    I would also like to hear more about it. SC is about half the price of Sargent (if my memory serves me correctly). Just wondering how it compares to Sargent. If I can fix my problem at half the price, I'll be happy to.

    My main concern is that SC does not appear to increase width of the seat and Sargent apparently does.

    So I'm wondering if swapping out the padding without adding width would be sufficient.
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  12. BryanCO

    BryanCO CO Rider

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    No issues with the delivery of my first seat nor with the delivery/turn-around of the free 'rebuild' Rick offers.

    The last seat was delayed - significantly. Rick did upgrade the seat to leather for no cost.

    With any custom seat, I would get a oem donor seat and send it to the builder - to both ensure constant use of the bike and for resale.
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  13. ssevy

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  14. TemeculaTim

    TemeculaTim Timiteo Viejo

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    Running a Sargent seat with heat option and love it.
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  15. dduelin

    dduelin Prone To Wander, Lord, I Feel It

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    I've had three Sargent's on three bikes and it was the best money spent on at least two of them. The Tiger is just three weeks with me but I didn't wait - I knew the stock seat was not for me. I tend to put a lot of miles on a bike and the pain of the initial cost is soon forgotten yet every mile I ride the bike I enjoy the seat (or not). I've done lots of all day rides on Sargent seats on my ST1300 and NC700X, inc. Saddle Sores, Bun Burners and a 50CC where I did 2355 miles in 42 hours 30 minutes.

    Everyone has a different need and expectation but I found the stock Tiger seat to be much too soft for me. The Sargent is flatter, wider, and slightly longer front-to-rear in the "sitting" area. I have room to move around and change up ergos a bit to help shoulders, knees, and hips. The Sargent seat nose is lowered a bit and while the part between the thighs might be slightly wider the leg reach to the ground is unchanged.

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  16. Dubl-A

    Dubl-A SuckerDucker

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    Already owned a Saddlemen Adventure but the height made it hard to ride in the rough stuff comfortably.

    I shaped both seats and added gel pads like an upholstery shop would. I LOVE it. Cost me under $15 :thumb

    Here's a couple of vids on how:

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  17. Yani

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    In the 16k miles I have ridden my XC I have tried the stock seat, Triumph accessory gel seat, a Sargent Adv touring low seat, a Saddlemen low Adv seat, and I now have a Seat Concepts kit on the stock pan. All set in the low position. Yeah I know a bit persnickety about my seat I guess.

    My biggest issue has been I'm guessing what a lot of peoples issue is, the forward sliding, ball crushing slope of the stock seat, which also exists in the Triumph accessory gel seat btw. It got to the point with me where on long rides my knees started hurting from constantly having to push myself back. My secondary issue was seat height (30 inch inseam). While I am well accustomed to not flat footing two feet on a bike at my height, I want to at least get down a solid Capt Morgan.

    The stock seat lasted maybe 500 miles and I switched to the gel seat. Good footing for me with the gel seat in low position but the forward slide was ever present. I sort of resolved myself to the misery of the gel seat for a while, probably to long, 10 k miles. Then right before a long trip I decided to take the expensive plunge and buy a Sargent. Unfortunately it took forever to get to me so i did the trip on the gel seat.

    When I got home the Sargent seat was waiting for me but I only took it out on one ride and knew I couldn't keep it. While it, and all Sargent's seats I have ever seen are a work of art imo, it was way wider then the gel seat I had been riding, which in effect created more seat height for me. No forward slant at all though. On an uphill off camber intersection I went to put my foot down and almost dumped it. I reluctantly sent it back, and got a full refund (good on Sargent!). It was\is an awesome seat though if seat height and price are not an issue for you I'd go for it. Wish I could have kept it.

    I next tried the Saddlemen. I liked the concept with the taint trough and all that but when I got it I did not like how it looked on the bike immediately and mine came to me from Revzilla with a defect (they took it back and gave me a complete refund, Zilla rules!). It was the low model but a bit higher then the gel seat, the width is similar though. Seat height wasn't an issue for me on this one. I found it to be very hard and imo the build quality of it was not very good, although it was the Sargent that I just returned I was comparing it to and you cant really get build quality better then a Sargent. I took it out once and just didn't like it.

    I finally decided to try the Seat Concept kit on the stock pan after I saw and rode a friends SC seat on a friends bike. For me this is the seat I have been looking for. There is no forward slant and the width is virtually identical to the gel seat. I've only put around 2k miles on it so far but that included a 500 mile day and it was all day comfortable. I got the rider and passenger seat in carbon fiber and imo it almost looks as good as the Sargent. I had a local upholstery guy install it on the stock pan. I only wish I hadn't waited so long! YRMV though I would definitely recommend the SC seat.
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  19. rustynut2

    rustynut2 Been here awhile

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    Yani, is that the tall SC seat or the regular. Nice review.
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  20. Rockhopp3r

    Rockhopp3r Been here awhile

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    This is great insight! Thanks!

    So, if height weren't an issue, would you still choose SC or would you have gone with Sargent?
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