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Discussion in 'Australia' started by nicholastanguma, Jul 9, 2018.
No I dont
New York is the capital of the world; despite this, laughably, New Yorkers still put our trash out on the sidewalk to be collected, so that once a week every walkable space in the city is piled waist high with smelly garbage; and the road conditions are literally as bad as anything you'll find in any third world country--riders sometimes die here in NYC because of hitting potholes so huge they swallow motorcycle tires. No joke.
Visitors to our fair city are usually simultaneously struck with awe at The Big Apple's absolute grandeur and awe at its absolute grittiness.
No, but planning for a long term business stay, however. I'd be temporarily importing a motorcycle with me into the country. Which the Aussie govt doesn't make difficult to do, God bless 'em.
You live in NY....Sydney is a doddle. Or, as we say here, a "piece of piss, maate"!
There are no suicidal yellow taxis, confusing one way streets and monster pot holes in Sydney..
As I read that I thought Jindy, checked, and yup. I lived at Cabramurra for 8 years, rode my K100RS year round. Troweled it twice, once was black ice, then testing the traction in snow as I was passing all the cars. When the back broke loose I could not match the wheel speed to road speed, took me about 80 meters to crash it. Rode away from both with mostly ego and cosmetic damage.
In the early 80's I moved to Sydney from Cooma riding an xt500, I lived around the Ryde area. I quite liked the impromptu ride, the xt was probably an ideal lane splitter...
Jindy is well located in the midst of some of the best roads, I have riding friends at Dallas (Dalgety), and Bibbenluke who are also well placed
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The region around NYC offers some terrific riding opportunities, both paved and unpaved, but the NYC metropolis is so mind-bogglingly massive and the traffic congestion so often oppressive that getting to any of those opportunities can be utterly daunting.
I know it's not necessarily impossible to find some kind of happy (ish) medium between living the exciting urban life and still having some access to impromptu motorcycle freedom. For instance, the USA's second largest metropolis, Chicago, is nearly as magnificent as Manhattan in NYC, yet the motorcycling situation there is leagues better. Because Chi-town is located in an area that experiences radical shifts in temperature between winter and summer (regular winter temps are anywhere from 15F to 0F) the roads suffer terrible buckling and cracking, rendering them nearly as bad as their counterparts in NYC; however, the traffic is predictably bad (only morning and afternoon rush hours) and therefore avoidable, and the weekends are surprisingly tame all day, allowing Chicagoan motorcyclists to ride pretty much any time of the week that they like. Here in The States only NYC beats Chicago in terms of urban density and culture and excitement, yet Chicago's moto freedom is so much better than that of NYC it sometimes baffles me.
Unfortunately, the mighty city of Chicago is located in the state of Illinois, which is a rolling plains state, meaning not a great deal of geographical diversity and mostly long straight roads. So, while Chi-town itself offers a pretty happy medium between urban dynamism and impromptu motorcycle freedom the state of Illinois doesn't offer a whole lot to tingle the spines of Chicago's riders when they venture outside of the city. The magnificent Rocky Mountains are definitely not in Illinois, for instance.
Here's a photo to illustrate just how monstrous and dense downtown Chicago is. Now, admittedly, as huge as Chi-town is, NYC is even more huge--just Manhattan itself would swallow three downtown Chicagos, in fact. But still, my point remains.
I was hoping (willingly naively, perhaps) that Sydney might be a sort of Chicago-esque city experience, but with the riding opportunities of the Blue Mountains not too far away. Sigh...
I live in one of the soy decaf, two and three quarter shot, but not to hot, latte drinking inner city suburbs of Sydney, on a weekend I leave home about 7am to beat the soccer mums etc when I escape the city and just make sure I have my ninja reflexes at 100% on re entry. There is surprising a lot of fun to be had on a bike both on and off road not that fair from Sydney when you start to look
Sorry I did a Google search but couldn't find where the surface area of Sydney is bigger than Melbourne... I think you are confusing population with surface area...
You can do as you wish with the information...
I think we should petition for a new road rule. Regardless of everything else...A motorcycle has right of way! What do you reckon?
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I'm thinking there should be a new state infrastructure project on the drawing board.
Bus lanes without the buses
Got my vote
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Awesome...Okay.. We need someone now that can put that on a billboard..
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Another difference that hasn’t been mentioned is the police presence in Sydney vs NYC.
Sydney riders do not face the unfair police crackdown that NYC riders currently do. However, the riding/driving culture in Oz is much more law abiding than the US; likely because of the strong enforcement of the law. Ubiquitous speed cameras, random breath tests and random speed checks, matched with relatively costlier fines, have made most motorists stick to the speed limit.
It is not enough to put you off riding but heavy handed enough to make you constantly keep an eye on the speedometer.
So true. A couple of years ago the NYPD motorbike-only checkpoint nonsense was reaching such insane levels that the wifey and I actually went to Chicago for a while to escape it, trying to decide if permanently moving to Chi-town would be a wise maneuver for us. The Chicago PD has no anti-moto sentiments, and we immediately adored the city just for this alone. Going back to NYC was kind of depressing in that regard, really.
Lordy, all my talk about Chicago is making me dangerously nostalgic.
Back on topic: so I'm now assuming that Sydney wouldn't really be a Chicago-in-Australia sort of experience, or have I misunderstood?
Chicago being the murder capital and New York being the self professed capital of the world?
Geez you lot are a funny bunch.
An hour and a half from the Sydney city cbd will see you clear most of the traffic and put you on some twisty blacktop and very close to the dirt
"NYC capital of the world" is a little jab at the New Yorker mentality; not meant to be offensive, apologies if it was.
Downtown and Northside Chicago are most certainly not murder capitals. They are wealthy and well-educated neighborhoods that get over 50 million tourists per year, and so are continually kept clean, orderly, and very, very safe. All the, um, ethnic gang violence that garners so much international attention is almost entirely centered in Southside Chicago, which is indeed pretty much a hip-hop gangland warzone, but one that's basically on a separate planet from Downtown and Northside.
If this is accurate then perhaps I have misunderstood, and Sydney could be considered a Chicago-in-Australia sort of experience for me to look forward to. Thanks for your insight.
Sydney cbd to somewhere you can ride in less than 30 minutes in a car outside peak hour is easy, bike should be even quicker. (Admittedly it does depend where in the cbd you are, some spots are slow to get out of)
M2 up to pennant hills rd, castle hill rd, new line rd, hit old northern... from there as you keep going north or west lots of options to choose from.
Peak hour unless there's a crash somewhere add ~ 45 minutes in a car.
In a car or a truck I reliably did home to the toll gates on the bridge in 40 minutes ex peak hour and I lived 20 minutes past the new line/old northern roundabout.
You must ride faster than me Mouse!