Training Courses

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Redback, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. dirty dennis

    dirty dennis are we there yet

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    While I haven't attended any courses run by any of the "A" team what I liked about the courses with Miles is that he wasn't necessarily a good teacher but he was a great instructor. He has the smarts & is good at getting you to understand what's happening & how you can translate it to different situations. As I pointed out before as one from a predominantly road history what I learn't & applied has saved my arse on a lot of occassions

    ( That & KTM's are that much better that they make it look like you have a bit of an idea. Like cheating really:hide )
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  2. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    Not that I'm aware of, but I'm not fully in the loop ATM either. Dargle is for hire, so anyone can do stuff there if they tick the necessary boxes. SU has in the past delivered the BMW and Yamaha courses under contract, others too perhaps, as well as their own SU brand.


    One of the interesting things I've observed with motorcycling is that if you don't have a race winning CV, your credibility as a coach is often diminished. Most/all other disciplines have top coaches/trainers that may not have a personal winning CV, but are analytical, can interpret visual evidence, explain stuff effectively, and have become successful as a coach as result. A lot of riders are great riders, but don't always know what they actually do, and then struggle to explain stuff, and aren't effective trainers as a result.

    Nevertheless I understand that Shane Watts and Chris Birch run good courses and are effective communicators.
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  3. Bounty1

    Bounty1 Been here awhile

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    In my experience, Chris Birch is a very good communicator and with his offsider/fellow trainer provided lots of feedback on correcting individuals riding style, as well as encouraging chats. I did the BMW course as part of the 2015 Safari and while both are a good learning experience the CB course offered a superior experience for me at the time.
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  4. Redback

    Redback Average aussie bloke

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    Mate look at it this way, you have a proper off road Adventure bike, you are pretty close to some great and some of the most iconic dirt tracks in the biggest State in Australia, and now you all the gear, it's time to get out there.

    Oh I found this, may help , looks alright.



    Baz.
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  5. Eeerrriiiccc

    Eeerrriiiccc Adventurer

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    @Redback you've hit the nail on the head brother. Thanks for the video, I've heard theirs a good adv following in perth, just need to be on FB... .or maybe just know Someone.
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  6. bikeroz

    bikeroz Long timer

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    Nick from Maschine also have off road courses from time to time. I think it is on their website.

    To the OP, any second hand off-road tire will be MILES better than a brand new road tire for your off road course. I have attended a course recently where someone arrived with road type tires. It is wasting money really as you will need the grip from the tire to get the most out of the course when trying to teach you the technique.
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  7. Redback

    Redback Average aussie bloke

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    Yep I am looking for some used tyres that are more off road than on and have managed to scrape up some extra money to get some new tyres, so many choices and the current tyres are 90/95% good and should I go 50/50 60/40 off road or 25/75 off road, 50/50 I have no issue with as they will be fine on the tar long term and maybe even 60/40, just don't know if it's feasible to go for a genuine off road tyre as they might just sit in the garage for ages before they get used.
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  8. LivingdeadCamo

    LivingdeadCamo Long timer

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    Get the most offroad focused you can mate, they still go hard on the blacktop.
    I had a 2007 1200GS with a Tractionator on the rear and TKC80 on the front and you could round up some of the sports bikes if you really wanted to and go as offroad as you dare.
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  9. Redback

    Redback Average aussie bloke

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    Haven't found any used tyres worth putting on, so we have bitten the bullet(Ness needs a new rear yesterday) so we are ordering 4 new tyres 2 Conti TKC 80s 110/80/19 F&R for the 650GS and 2 Motoz Trantionator Adventure F&R for the 1200GS, hope I made the right choice.

    Although I have thought that maybe the TKC front might be better, I'll see when I actually place the order tonight.
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  10. Gone Troppo

    Gone Troppo Somewhat bemused observer

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    The Stay Upright courses are good.
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