what to expect from wife , when doing two up ? should I ?

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  1. booniebasher

    booniebasher Been here awhile

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    I have never done the Two up thing. My dirt bike adventures are solo. My wife is very adventurous and I see pics of couples on adventure bikes . Should I get tooled for this ? Please Give me your thoughts and advice and realistic goals...
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  2. chorizo

    chorizo Been here awhile

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    Speed up, slow down, turn here, I gotta pee, Im board.. Ive been married 35 years. Dont push it. Start with short trips to see if you both like it. My wife and I like short 50 mile two up round trips. Im cool with this. As for me riding solo is a spiritual journey that I don't need help enjoying. Just saying
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  3. boatpuller

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    Start by taking her out to dinner on the cycle. Then suggest an afternoon ride. See how she rides compared to how you ride. If she really digs it, but wants you to ride differently (usually calmer and slower) than you usually do, than you end up with a compromising problem. Riding with wife can be great, but not for everyone and every couple. Venture carefully.
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  4. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad Former World's Foremost Authority

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    I found the best answer for bringing SWMBO along:

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    A couple of things that makes this a great setup for us. First; as she is shorter than me, the forward view from the sidecar is much better than only seeing the back of my head. Second; along with using an intercom system, I mounted the GPS in front of her and she get to be involved with the navigation. Third the sidecar allows us to carry gear and supplies that aren't as Spartan (happy wife, happy life!)

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    We've done the CDR & the HOW routes and have spent up to 6 weeks on the road with our rig, we love it!
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  5. braindead0

    braindead0 Head Fisherman

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    First question I'd have is what is the ratio of your weight to her weight. If you weigh 100# and your wife weighs 300# you're going to have a rougher time than if the opposite is true. Also the motorcycle weight plays into things, heavier bikes are IMO easier to manage with a passenger. They will move, no matter how much you tell them to glue themselves to your back.. And how much experience do you have hauling passengers?

    My recommendation would be to get your wife her own bike. However that comes with some risk, my wife learned and became pretty good rider.. rode for 5 or so years and then was done with it. she just couldn't handle traffic and other vehicles. Anyone who's ridden for a while knows they will never be comfortable as a passenger again, I'm sure some can but I ride solo now.

    Or the sidecar, probably the best comfort for a passenger off road... It may limit your ability to get places, the benefits are pretty nice though.
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  6. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    Wife will take afternoon trips and we'll stop for something to eat, then return. My 14 yr old daughter will take weekend trips with me, and we fish, camp, cook, etc. wife doesn't like minimalist camping much like that, is happy with the day trips, and maybe 1 overnighter.

    Both are about the same weight (115ish), i'm 175-180, so large bikes don't care much about what it's carrying. The bike is a little different handling especially packed with luggage.

    Intercom is a must, and we chat and listen to music. It's a fun experience, but try to have resonable expectations, enjoy the ride and some kind of happy ending.

    Slabbing a 1000kms then then sleeping in the ditch won't work.

    Good luck.
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  7. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    To add, my 10 yr old son start overnighting with me last yr. I enjoy it so much as I'm trying to take an early retirement next summer at 47 so I can do it more often before the kids don't want to hang with dad any more.
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  8. TUCKERS

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    Depends on the woman. Generally I'd say be prepared to stop every hour, be prepared to end the day early. Be prepared to spend on a decent motel. Be prepared to go out for dinner. Give up a lot of packing space to her.
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  9. nickguzzi

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    I took the ex all round Europe for 30 years. For ALL her other faults, she was a good passenger and helped out with the tent and camping in general. She very rarely complained about me riding to fast, or getting the pegs down in the twisties.
    I think that perhaps it is far more common in Europe for people to carry a passenger , possibly reflecting the relative wealth/disposable income between here and the US.

    I think the biggest drawback was the loss of performance having another body on board, the guzzi is a bit feeble in that regard, compared to modern bikes. I gave her a side box and said she can take along whatever she wanted, as long as it went in the box. We often had a month long plus excursions, so we knew a trip to a laundromat was on the cards - or buying something new (and cheap).
    Fortunately, a few mods and alterations did make it comfortable to suit us both.

    Riding round Europe, you have a lot to look at, and a lot to do. Even a tiny area has enough stuff to keep you occupied for a long time, depending on your interests of course.
    Which was, for me, one of the big pluses. You always had someone to talk to, to talk through the day and discuss what you saw, likes and dislikes, or been there done that, or wow! we must do that again. Initially she wanted an intercom, but after the first trip abroad, she no longer thought it necessary. We could do the chatting, all relaxed in a decent restaurant.
    A bike allows you as a couple to visit places which are a pain in the arse in a car - here at least, parking a bike is simple, roads and paths can be navigated which are barred to 4 wheelers.
    Plus you get to introduce another human to the delights of being on a bike.
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  10. bikerfish

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    my wife rarely lets me ride solo!! She loves riding and camping, I'm so used to having her on board that when I'm solo the bike feels weird. I've found if the bike is set up properly, even 2 up with camping gear, the twisties are still fun. Off road is more of a challenge, but I've done many dirt passes out west, just take our time and enjoy the scenery a bit more. I made her ride across the country once, told her everyone should do it at least once, now she flies out and meets me somewhere, which gives me some solo time, and she has more time to spend in the good stuff(the west!!) Packing is no problem, been doing it for so long that it's second nature. I cook and she does the dishes, we camp 90 percent of the time, grabbing a motel if we're in a cool funky town where we can walk to a cool funky bar. Only thing she doesn't like is camping with the grizzlies!! Oh, and she hates motorcycle races, so I get to have alone time there also!!!
    I'd say if your wife shows interest, then do it. Start off small, dinner rides, day rides, and work up to a weekender, maybe stay at a B&B. If she likes to camp, then start doing some short camping trips. Keep the miles low at first, sitting on the back isn't near the fun as sitting up front, and can be very boring. I've learned to stop much sooner than I need to, but it's usually the perfect time for her to take a break. We don't do the intercom thing, she sometimes listens to music, I like to listen to the engine sing. If she does need to talk to me, I can hear her pretty well, we have a decent windshield, and I may have the only vstrom with Harley passenger floor boards, which she loves. Been thinking about the sidecar thing, or maybe a trailer, but then again, we already take too much crap. I would be able to carry my fishing waders though!!
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    My Thai wife & myself heading out for a week ride around Northern Thailand. Do not need much stuff, stay in little bungalows along the way. She keeps my speed down which is a good thing here in Thailand, plus I am 71, so I am slowing down anyway. Thais like to eat every 3 or 4 hours, so we are both ready for a stop. received_955563824528728.jpeg
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  12. bikerfish

    bikerfish flyfishandride

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    Nice!! I was just in Chiang Mai and did a short overnighter to Pai, those bungalows are great, and cheap!! Rented a CB500x, great bike for those twisty mountain roads.
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    Bikerfish The X is the perfect bike for those mountain roads. Have one back in California but thought I would try the 300 R , for the price & it is a little smaller to deal with the CM traffic. Plus were are here for only 4 or 5 months out of the year. The road to Pai is great, isn't it. We will head up there after new years when the crowds have gone.
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    THIS is Great stuff !!! I cant help but notice there is alot of variables, but there is also some continuity here. Start off slow, expect to stop alot, I love the ( i give her a box ) haha... I would so have to do that, And it seems like they too get on the same page of how fun it is !!!
    I am gonna follow your adice guys !!! cant wait
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    bikerfish gave me a good idea....with my van we can go to new areas and i can solo where she can meet me ....and also do two up....just need to have a bike with buddy pegs...or bring a vstrom etc?

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    overkilled Been here awhile

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    my wife is adventurous. but im not sure how her tolerence will be for comfort.
    i will start off with buddy pegs on a xr6 and go from there...i will find her interests. she is not real happy with me takeing off every weekend solo to go dirt bike rideing. i dont blame her
    she wants in on the fun

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  17. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    I also agree with giving her a box. I have my gear in one side case, her gear in the other side case. Camping, cooking stuff in the top box.


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  18. High Country Herb

    High Country Herb Adventure Connoiseur

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    Lots of good advice here. We started out with dinner dates, then Sunday rides on the outskirts of town, and finally overnight trips.

    About bike weight: A good rule of thumb is that rider+passenger should not outweigh the bike. My wife and I rode 2-up on my Honda XL600R, and it was like wallowing in mud the whole time. The longest trip we took was 1.5 hours away. Around town was OK, but still a struggle. My current 400+ lb bike does fairly well, and is about minimum for 2-up (one of the reasons I chose it).

    Intercoms: This was far and away the best thing we did to improve passenger enjoyment. It can get pretty boring back there by herself. Being able to discuss the need to stop, or cool scenery is great, and makes a huge difference. It can be a double edged sword, however, if your wife is more chatty than you want. Mine isn't, and she is my best friend, so it works great for us. Don't bother with those wired units. Go straight to a Bluetooth wireless. They can be used on separate bikes should she ever decide to get her own.

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    Seat: Comfortable is better, obviously. Shape makes a difference as well. A one piece forward sloped seat will have her sliding into you, pushing you onto the fuel tank, all the time. My wife was never comfortable holding onto rails behind her. There are grab handles the rider can wear around his waist that work pretty well, but your riding buddies will surely tease you about what they are really for. :lol3

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    Backrest: My wife really liked the backrest attached to our top box. She said it helped her lean back, rather than on me, without fear of being thrown off the back during acceleration.

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    Body language: This is something we worked out before we had intercoms. If we were starting out uphill, I would lean forward in an exaggerated manner to let her know to do the same. She tried to stay rather straight up in turns, which allowed me to handle her weight as part of the bike. Some advanced sport bike passengers lean, but that requires a lot of experience on their part to not screw you up. The more still she is the better, but I always tried not to lecture her about anything, because I didn't want it to be a lousy experience.

    Off road: There is really no easy way for the passenger. They will not see all the bumps, and will continuously have the wind knocked out of them. Once again, lots of experience will help.

    Once they get lots of experience, they often get their own bike. I don't recommend pushing them to do so, as not all people are cut out to be riders. I would not want to push her into something that got her killed. I actually tried to subtly discourage my wife by telling her I liked her as a passenger, yada yada. She was very determined and driven to get her license, took the MSF class, and is now a competent rider. I am proud of her, but still worried when she rides.
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    There is a big difference between taking SWMBO along on a ride and going for a ride with SWMBO. I chose the sidecar because when SWMBO & I go out, it is a ride for the 2 of us, not my ride that she is joining me in.

    Intercoms are essential! The funny thing is I find that SWMBO will say things in her helmet over the intercom that she would NEVER say in normal conversation!!!

    You know you are doing it right when you constantly see smiles like this:

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  20. overkilled

    overkilled Been here awhile

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    what a great post !..I was gonna start on a xr600....dinner on me babe !

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