Xenon lights installation - F800GS

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  1. narcosis

    narcosis GS800

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    Last week, I got a nice birthday present for my ride from a couple of friends - .​
    A kit of Xenon lights :clap
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    The box contains 2X - Xenon light bulbs, 2 thin ballasts (the silvery metal part) and all the cables. (The photo is showing only one ballast)​
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    So, as soon as the birthday hangover ended :freaky, I got to the job of actually installing them on my 3 months old GS 800.​
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    I had David help me as he is well experienced in installing all kinds of nice things on all kind of rides :wink:
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    The first thing was to find a place to attaché the ballasts at the best possible spot so it wouldn't get in the way of any cables or the steering.​
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    We started by taking off the side fairings and the beak.​
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    This clears some working space and lets you look around for the best place to attaché the ballasts.​
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    We have decided to attaché them just behind the lights…​
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    The steering frame has a kind of a metal bracket which holds the dashboard. ​
    This bracket looks like its just ready to have something attached to it :clap

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    We did a dry run and found this place to be perfect.​
    There are some other places that look good for attachment but check your cables length and make sure the steering is not obstructed in any way side to side.​
    <o:p> </o:p>​
    If you think of getting a kit – try and get the thinnest ballasts available - this will help to tuck them away…

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    Next, we used double sided sticky tape to attaché each ballast to the igniter​
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    Next, get the bulb house ready.​
    Taking the bulb caps/covers off is pretty easy - just twist it.​
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    These caps need to be drilled, to make way to the cables to go out and attaché to the ballasts. The caps already have dents in them which are (amazingly) in the right size I needed. :D

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    Replace the original bulb with the xenon one and get the cables out through the drilled opening at the back of the cap.​
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    When both bulbs have been replaced, the caps can be set back to their original place.​
    We got all the cables coming out of the cap and wrapped them nicely.​
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    Hooking the ballasts was the last thing left.​
    We attached both to each other with screws going from one side to the other while also going through the (nicely ready) holes in the steering bracket.​
    It's a bit hard to noticed the screws but they are there :deal
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    The cable tie was just for extra security.​
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    Last check to make sure the steering is not disturbed in any way, a check to see the lights are actually working, and fairings back up.​
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    And from the other side:​
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    I don’t have photos to show the difference in light strength or width but I already had a night ride and it's worth every cent (Of the people who got me this as a gift) :D
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    This whole thing took about 2-3 hours and included going through a six pack during a summery <st1:city><st1:place>Sydney</st1:place></st1:city> day :freaky
    (No riding was done through and/or after this activity)​
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    While I got these photos on, I'll share my SW-Motech crash bars and Toratech engine and oil filter protectors…​
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    (These already paid for themselves on the first bike drop while doing some off roading)


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    Any comments or ideas for future upgrades are welcomed :)
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  2. Y E T I

    Y E T I Unpossible

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    Looks good, nice clean install. Eventually I'm going to do my low beam that way. I want to keep the high beam "normal" to maintain the "flash to pass" capability.
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  3. narcosis

    narcosis GS800

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    I thought the low/high beam flick would be a problem but apparently is working fine.
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  4. PackMule

    PackMule love what you do

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    Nice install. :thumb I presume the units are totally weathertight?


    How long does it take the high beam to come up to brightness (at night) when you flick it on? :ear
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  5. alexcorral

    alexcorral Long timer

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    What's the make of your kit?

    F800GS bulbs are H&s right?
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  6. GB

    GB . Administrator

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    Nice work, thanks for the pictorial! Nifty place to attach the ballasts, which are practically out of sight :thumb
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  7. narcosis

    narcosis GS800

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    The bulbs are H7 and the kit is "Tai Cahng Xenon HID Head Lamp"

    When flicking to high beam it does that instantly but still takes the lamp about 1-2s' to get to full brightness.

    I think it's not a big deal as the high beam on the GS is achieved by the reflectors around the bulb - so the "high beam" effect is instant even before reaching 100% brightness.

    The units are fully weather proff and as you might see in the photos, there is a rubber guard which sits nicely in the drilled cap.
    We though initially to put some silicon around it but it fits so nice, doesn't seem like it needs any help against rain.
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  8. alexcorral

    alexcorral Long timer

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    Does it sell as specific for motorcycles?

    I found (locally) one of these chinese HID conversion kits (35W) that sells with any bulbs you might need for $80. Not motorcycle specific though...
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  9. narcosis

    narcosis GS800

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    The thin ballast kits are being promoted towards motorcycles but it is not a model specific.


    The only bike specific you need is the model of your bulb.
    I got H7 bulbs, as this is the GS 800 bulb model.
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  10. nomadonwheels

    nomadonwheels Adventurer

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    Hi Narcosis...thks for the installation report, I have the same kit and its been sitting in the box for a few weeks...I must get it out and have a crack at it!....I also have the Stebel Natalilus Ear cannon horn to install as well.....your not doing a install report on one of those are you??:rofl
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  11. bikerfish1100

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    with HIDs, your "flash to pass" will continue to operate correctly. the problem is that those short bursts of on/off will (supposedly) dramatically shorten bulb life. that is the reason for the admonition against using f-t-p with HIDs.
    that said, i have HIDs on my R11S (love 'em!), and have occassionally used my f-t-p to signal other vehicles, and i have over 6 years of usage on my Polarion kit, no replacement parts as yet. generally, i just ride with my hi beams on during the day, and there's no need to f-t-p, as many cars just pull over voluntarily for me. i think it's so that they can investigate why their rear-view has suddenly become a puddle of molten glop on the seat of their car.
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  12. ncooper

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    That is a very clean installation, thanks for taking the time to write that up!
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  13. narcosis

    narcosis GS800

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    No, I dont have any install report on a Stebel, but let me know when you have yours online ... It's a little piece of equip I'm looking into and would love to see where you have decided to put it ...
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  14. PackMule

    PackMule love what you do

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    I realized while out riding last night that having an HID high beam on this bike isn't as much of an issue as my last bike, where hi/lo were combined in one bulb. Even if it takes a few seconds to hit full brightness, you've still got the full effect of the low beam in the mean time. Duh.


    The number of lifetime on/off cycles may do it worse than the always-on low beam, but to me I think the extra light will be worth it.


    Say you're on a long trip and lose one of the HID's for some reason. How easy would it be to reinstall a regular bulb to keep you going? Other than the hole cut in the back of the housing "cup", this mod is totally reversible, right? :ear
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  15. soyanarchisto

    soyanarchisto Long timer

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    I have been thinking about this install on my bike as well. When I had HIDs on my airhead and one bulb went out (due to a short in the wiring--my fault), the stock bulb just plugged right back in. Simple.
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  16. narcosis

    narcosis GS800

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    As Soyanarchisto mentioned, all it takes is sliding in the old bulb for it to work in case you lose the HID one.
    I used the space at the rear (just underneath the rear seat) to have my spare battery (and first aid kit).
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  17. PackMule

    PackMule love what you do

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    Spare battery?
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  18. narcosis

    narcosis GS800

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    :D - my spare bulb of course
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  19. PackMule

    PackMule love what you do

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    Ahh! That makes more sense. :D
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  20. DolphinJohn

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    Thanks, narcosis.

    After seeing this install and getting tired of looking at my big-ass ballasts sitting in plain view, I got a new set of HID's from VVME.

    They were only about $60-70

    They have the slim ballast, they look just like the ones in this thread. I went with the 4300 color to stay as white as possible.

    I basically followed narcosis' install, and now have a nice clean instrument cluster.

    The only issue I had was trying to find the right screws and nuts to work in the limited space on the ballast holes.

    I ended up just using zip-ties. They are very tight and secure so I think it will be ok.

    Didn't take any pics because I was rushing to finish before dark, as I don't have a garage.

    I will get some pics up soon.


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