Yamaha WR250R Threadfest

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by gjcarving, Nov 23, 2013.

  1. Foot dragger

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    The local shops who work on KTM's have a steady string of older to newish KTM 4 strokes waiting to be rebuilt,its been like that ever since they came out. Some last a while,some do not. Rather these shops know how to rebuild one properly who knows?

    The 520's/525's/530's that last and last and run 40K miles or even 10K miles are the stuff of legend,only heard of them on the internet.
    Im happy some do but just never heard of one around here,most would be on their second engine by then,if not the third.

    A Honda 450/Kawi 450/Suzuki 450 is about the same thing,once they have a bunch of hours on them nobody wants them and the value plummets quickly. The Yamaha 450/250 seems to last the longest and has since they first started making them,not sure why.
  2. Conner

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    Bought one new in 2008. Loved every mile, around 6500 of them. Threw the usual mods at it; Renazco seat, big tank, tuner, etc. I sold it because it didn't really fit my needs anymore. It did what it does pretty well. I wanted something more focused. Lighter. Faster.
    I spend most of my time on twisty Nor Cal backroads.
    So I bought a Husaberg fs570, the supermoto version. Got to throw a few high dollar parts at it, makes me smile every time I ride it. Smooth dirt roads are fine. Paved is better.
    I also picked up a clapped out tw200 to try to rebuild. Should get it running in another year or two. Slow, but should be more fun in the sand than a wr250r.
    Remember, if it's got wheels, it's probably fun.



    Conner is Sacramento
  3. Mr.Black999

    Mr.Black999 Been here awhile

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    I believe one of the reasons for that is Yamaha uses a 3 ring piston in the WR450f, not sure about the WR250f, and they seem to be in a slightly lower state of tune.
  4. tHEtREV

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    So what problems did you have with your 520/525/530?
  5. Foot dragger

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    I never rode it enough to even worry about it,I had a 2011 530, but at every chance I would take my 2 stroke out. My riding habits changed and singletrack is the focus. The trails around here are borderline trials sections in spots and Ive always used 2 strokes for it.
    530 is gone and a new 300 moved in here. Id like to finagle a plate for it.

    I have a DR for dualpurpose but would like to build up a japanese bike of some sort for DP that isnt a huge bike,but what? If Yamaha built a 450 dual purpose bike it could be good,no money in it I guess.
  6. Foot dragger

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    Trails are freshly watered here,no snow yet,temps in the 60's maybe higher.
    Nor Cal is not so bad.
  7. theMISSIONARY

    theMISSIONARY hunting and riding!!

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    so is Australia mate....lived and ridden all over it:wink:

    the DR650 is awesome thing really gets to me some days......despite my Sig line i dont think the WRr is the do all and end all of bikes......but its far ahead of Dr650s :evil :p3rry
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    the key is compared to the WRr the DR650 had more vibes

    i found the DR650 had less Vibes than the XT600/TT600, KLR600, XR600 NX650 KTM640 etc etc

    But the DR650 is still a cheap bike......with poor ergonomics that only a new frame design can fix

    i did like the cooling.....for an air/oil cooled bike and the flat rear guard and grab handles i didnt need a rack.
  9. theMISSIONARY

    theMISSIONARY hunting and riding!!

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    WR450F/CRF road legal over there?

    some blokes over here have been doing oil changes around the 2500km mark and valve checks haven't been that bad...... could be a project
  10. GSF1200S

    GSF1200S Been here awhile

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    Thats just it though. THAT is why a KTM is just not even in the same realm as something like a WRR or a DR650 (exclusion applied for 690).

    300 hours? I did about 12-14 hours a day in the saddle for about a month of my 5 month Alaska trip (if you add up the highway sections- i did a lot of dirt). 12 hrs * 30 days = 360 hours/month, and thats not even counting the other 4 months I spent on the road. By your own admission, I would have had to do at least one and possibly 2 or maybe even 3 top end rebuilds (and prolly a piston, cam chain, and possibly bearings?) during my trip.

    While the DR650 (in my case, WR similar) wont touch a KTM performance wise, I didnt even have to adjust the valves the entire trip. Aside from wheel bearings and a cush bearing (did all at once), I never had an issue.

    Id like to stress I want a WR250R, a KTM 300, a KTM 690, and a KTM 450. The KTMs are great for local rides and dirtbiking, or even good when trailered, but for a trip of some distance the maintenance aspect IS vital (the 690 again doesnt have this issue).

    I agree if one has the cash- fuck it, life is short ENJOY IT and ROCK THE ORANGE with a big grin, but the low maintenance dual sports are great for poor folk, for big trips, for commuters, or for (like me) someone literally using 1 bike for everything as his only vehicle.

    The WR is every bit as reliable as a DR, and maybe even moreso.
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    Its not always possible to avoid highway sections, especially in the US. I aimed for as much dirt as I could find, but sometimes you are on a highway at 75. Just cant avoid it all the time..

    I have heard this quite a bit, but I admit I dont really understand. It might be because I havent really ridden dirtbikes, or it might be that im the right size for a DR. What do you mean by poor ergonomics? If I ride all day, the only sore thing is my ass and that goes for most dual sports anyways. My shoulders, arms, legs, core, back, and hands/wrists are all fine. What aspect of ergonomics are you referring to? Genuine question here..
  12. theMISSIONARY

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    yep i agree but i find the WRr better than a DR650 on the highway....i do 500km a week of highway riding......its a Jeep thing in the drive way....dont ask:cry my luck with Cars is Bad...very bad


    Its not just dirt bikes but bikes in general if you get a chance to ride a bike you have never ridden before jump at it...its all experience and knowledge

    IMHO the WR250r is a road trail not a race bike(thats what the WR250/450F's are) or even a real good Dirt bike.....its a true road trail a replacement for the TTR and XT series

    ergo's
    Foot peg to seat hight is too short this will make for crapped knees and sore hip joints

    the seat to bar length is not real good also making for sore back and shoulders

    the seat....best not mention the seat....i find the standard WRr seat better

    i rode a DR650 for one day to work and back after getting the WRr and couldn't wait to give it back.
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    Anyone else think the OP is thinking "Anyone ever asked a question about a WR250R and regretted it?":lol3

    Now if only people who have never owned a KTM would stop repeating crap about them being unreliable, and then that would stop the people who have owned them correcting them, and that would stop the DR brigade coming in claiming the DR is the be all end all, and maybe the internet forums could be useful again.:rofl

    If the OP is in the market for a ride and forget 250, he could do a lot worse than the WRr.

    But personally I would get a TTR, DR or KLX purely because I don't believe the extra cost is worth it.

    The WR is probably better all round than the others, but last time I checked the WR was still bloody expensive for a 250 trail bike.

    And Australians must agree with me because the TTR is outselling the WRr over here (new bikes).

    But it does all come down to personal preference.

    I hear a lot of praise heaped on the WR, but I wonder how many of those people have spent time on any other 250 trail bike lately.

    Most of us tend to think of them as learner bikes, but they are actually pretty easy to live with. My old KLX carted me and my gear on a few trips with no problems at all. I moved to a 91 DR650 and really didn't think it was that much better if it was better at all (except the high frequency vibes, they sucked after a big day on the KLX).

    I was actually going to go back to a 250, but decided I wanted to have a go at racing so I bought a two stroke instead.

    So in summery, KTMs are not unreliable. If the OP is looking for a 250 trail bike and likes the WR, go for it. If he wants an enduro, then get what ever, they are all pretty good these days.

    Now back to the crap about KTMs DRs and WRs.:lol3
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    I feel the string and soapy water is needed again :D Forums useful :rofl
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    Rufjeep Been here awhile

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    This echoes my experience with the WRR exactly. A good bike, but didn't fit my riding style at all.
  16. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Scottsdale

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    I was definitely disappointed in mine. It was too short and slow. Plus the skid plate made a lot of racket and the clutch was grabby. But after riding the CDR (which is why I bought it), I learned to love the little thing. I got used to the power delivery and can feel the torque for changing gears and such. I don't have to rev it, but it is sort of fun to wring it's neck sometimes from stop lights. It is remarkably quick compared to sedans and pick-ups.
  17. Foot dragger

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    If the DR vibes too much for you.........maybe your using the wrong brand of vaginal treatment? Sometimes simple vinegar and clorox mixed can help with yeast issues

    Lowered footpegs,taller bars,better seat and a DR is a 600 mile a day bike,as many RTW riders have found out.
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    So weve figured out the soapy water for washing people's mouths out on the trail,what is the string for?
    Does this go on a lot where you live?:norton
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    Some states here are going back to registering dirtbikes for the road,mainly for income I think. California leads the way in all that is rules and regulations and does not register any sort of dirtbike for road use.
    Has to be sneaked in from elsewhere.

    Even the die hard Honda fanatics at the local Honda shop admit Honda shot themselves in the foot dropping the XR's and selling the X models as trailbikes,they just dont last like an XR especially if used hard.
  20. TNC

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    Really agree on the Honda opinion. Their XR650R was the foundation of what might have been one of the best all around DS bikes around in the DS big bike market. I kind of think Honda looked at what happened to Kawasaki's KLX650 "C" model which was a really good DS version of the off-road-only KLX650R. That bike didn't sell worth a hoot, and it might have given Honda cold feet.