'07 TuneECU Map reviews and musings

Discussion in 'Dakar champion (950/990)' started by docwyte, Jun 16, 2017.

  1. Zuber

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    There are many good tunes for the stock air box. The acoustics of the closed air box helps at 3-4000 rpm and it controls dust and water very well. You've slightly plugged up the exhaust with the 2-1, then made a completely open intake, good luck making an efficient tune for this.
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  2. Salzig

    Salzig Comfortably dumb

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    @Zuber I need your knowledge.
    Here's my spark plugs, they're 20k km old and I'm using your map no. 3.
    Bike runs great and has 114k km, 2in1 Akra, stock airbox and filter, UNI snorkel prefilter.
    The pale one is from the rear cylinder and the intake valves were a bit tight (0.10mm didn't pass, 0.05mm passed).
    Is it due to the tight valves or do I need to richen the rear cylinder?
    Thank you in advance.

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  3. Zuber

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    You need to richen the rear cylinder. The 2-1 exhaust will change the tuning that much. You must have some vibration from this?

    Load the stock map to compare with mine. Richen the load maps for the rear cylinder a little at a time. Compare with the stock curves. I don't think you need to go all the way to stock again, but??
    Give it a try and see if it runs smoother.
  4. Salzig

    Salzig Comfortably dumb

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    Ok I'll try.
    Just to be sure, load maps are the L tables, right? And the rear is cylinder no. 1?

    Again, thank you so much.
  5. GSpear

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    Anybody with a Hoologan map? I'd really appreciate a copy.
  6. 2 SPOT

    2 SPOT bring the rape whistle

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    it's called soul,, i love soul,, some guys dont,, they ride japanese bikes.
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  7. Steinarsv

    Steinarsv Who cares about the destination? Supporter

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    Anyone mind sending me the most of the known maps for some comparison and maybe a short text about the different?

    Running a 11 ADV R, having what i think is a snatchy ride, with the 11-12 "custom map" with itg filter, no sas, butterflies at 100%


    Thanks,
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  8. morini

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    The more I read of this thread, the more sceptical to modifying the ECU I become. A dyno would probably make sense, but here in Norway the tuners only work with Power Commander, and I do not like the thought of a piggyback solution lying to my ECU.

    But something must be done: My 2006 990 Adventure has terribly snatchy throttle, to the extent that I constantly use the clutch in slow traffic. In the hope to fix this, loose weight and gain power I have now mounted a 2-1 Yoshimura (with DB-killer), SAS removal and a Rottweiler air filter.

    I am glad to see someone like Zuber putting a lot of effort and knowledge into his maps, but as I understand it they only work with the original filter. Would the biemme map from Masso be the best starting point for my set up?

    My experience with air/fuel ratios is limited to fiddling around with 70 Moto Guzzis, so this whole computertuning is new to me and I do not want to run the chance of the engine running lean. I therefore consider a lamda sensor like the AEM UEGO Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge just to make sure. Is this a useful tool or just low cost rubbish?

    Last question: If the O2 sensors are disabled, I guess there is no need to block them with plugs and dongles?

    Thx
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  9. pdxthmper

    pdxthmper Been here awhile

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    morini, there is hope! there are several maps that work out specific kinks depending on how you bike is set up and how you ride. It is easy to reflash the ecu of these bikes, for snatchy throttle there are a few options FL points, or ignition curves (zuber), and secondaries, if you make a change its 10 min to go back to what you had. If lean condition is your concern, look at the fueling tables and use the compare function to see the actual changes.
  10. Jeff Sichoe

    Jeff Sichoe ruddy bastard

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    Question; Are there any maps for stock bikes? Stock bikes with O2 sensors eliminated / dongled?
  11. KTM Mike

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    I would think Zuber one or three would work. I forget if O2 sensor is on or not, but it's super easy to turn off.
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  12. buaan

    buaan Been here awhile

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    I think I have a copy that he sent me, PM me your email address I'll forward it on (It's for 07/08 US bikes though)
  13. GSpear

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    Fantastic. PM sent.
  14. Bullseye

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    I have a 'more or less' stock 990 '08. Smog removed, but stock intake and stock exhaust.
    I just loaded the Zuber 3 map and the bike runs great.

    Having said that, I bought my bike used and it appears to have been running the Akra map. So I'm still unsure what my 'starting point' was... may not be stock map.
    The bike had all the problems that the Zuber 1 and 3 maps were created to solve... too rich, bad MPG and severe throttle chop.

    At any rate, it's all improved on the Zuber 3 map.
  15. KTM Mike

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    I've ran Zuber 1 and 3 on my 07. Had Akra when I bought the bike. Horrible bad snatchy throttle and bad fuel economy. Both Z1 and Z3 huge improvement in how smooth. I had hoped to get a bit better MPG with Z3, but so far seems to be about the same (only 250 ish miles though so hard to really tell). I'd say both are about same in terms of how smooth.
  16. Sumi

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    My only two issues with the Zuber3 map really is that when I snap open the throttle at ~4k rpm (wheelie speed) it sometimes surges a bit & when I shut the throttle it pops badly on decel. I think it's too lean on my bike, but it can be that my valves are out. Apart from this it's a great map, as it really cures the harsh no throttle fuel cutoff the stock maps have. Still I went with the Akra map in the long run, as somehow that feels more closer to what my 950 was (apart from the jerky throttle).
  17. Bullseye

    Bullseye Mr. Bad Example Supporter

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    Put in a good day in the Zuber3 map today. Much smoother. Still some slight ‘hunting’ in the 4-5,000 range but not bad. Fuel economy still no bueno. I averaged around 30 mpg today.
    Next, I’m going to try the Zuber1 map.
  18. anytwowilldo

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    Hey guys, I just purchased a 2007 CA 990. It has KTM branded FMF pipes on it and I believe the rest is stock. It sounds like it runs like many of your bikes before it has been reflashed. I was told it has An Akropovic (sp) tune but is very rich, you can smell it 50 feet away and super snatchy and gets 23ish MPG. Roll off to roll on is super jerky. I look forward to reading these this thread, getting your input and reflashing the ECU with the TuneEcu maps. Where do you think I should start?
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  19. 2 SPOT

    2 SPOT bring the rape whistle

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    i would start with a stock map. ride it enough to get a good feel for it,,, then you'll have an idea what needs to be tweaked and where.
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  20. anytwowilldo

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    Sounds good, thank you.