LED Headlights from Cyclops

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  1. tntriumph

    tntriumph Been here awhile Supporter

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    Check your owners manual for the type of bulb and replace with the LED of the same type. Easy.

    See you somewhere down a twisty road
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    I guess I have had the Auxbeams on the bike for 3 months and about 3K miles. No issues so far. Have not taken them offroad yet other than gravel roads. They have been good.
  3. Blue Hawaii

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    @Dug89 - The Auxbeams seem like a good "buy" compared to the Cyclops which are $80/ea. I would like to know what the cut off looks like at night. Can you share a photo please? Also, are you running any auxiliary lights? I see that Auxbeam sells them as well that are very affordable.
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    Dug89 Amenmoto.com

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    I don't have any before and after pictures showing the beam pattern cutoff. All I can say it seems very close to what I had with the H4s, just brighter and bluer. The beam pattern is dictated by the reflector and position of the light source. Although not exact, the LED position in the bulb is really close to the same as the filament in the H4. I see a definite cutoff with the Auxbeam. In fact, I had to re-aim the lights higher. I do not have auxiliary lighting.
  5. Rockhopp3r

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    @Dug89 In terms of being able to see better, I'm assuming they helped? I'm courting with the Cyclops setup, but they're expensive. If these provide 85% of what Cyclops offers for a fraction of the price, I'd be happy.

    Is there a noticeable improvement vs stock in terms of how much and how far ahead you can see?
  6. Dug89

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    Is there a noticeable difference? Sort of. They are bluer and brighter which makes objects look a bit sharper. But here is the deal, more and wider light coverage great for you but bad for everyone else. There is a compromise in the design of headlights. Beam pattern and light cutoff is not dictated by the bulb, it is designed into the reflector.

    The headlights are designed to provide a beam pattern that provides light disbursement as well as shielding light from oncoming traffic. That pattern is based on the location of the filament in respect to the reflector. If the LED elements are not in the same location as the original bulb, the beam pattern will be changed in a way that might be beneficial to you but not beneficial to oncoming traffic. You don't want an angry cage driver flashing his or her high beams causing you to not be able to see.

    Here is a really good LED headlight company that explains the science of headlights and the differences in LED replacement bulbs: https://headlightrevolution.com/headlights/headlight-bulb-upgrades/led-headlight-bulbs/

    I perceive that my replacement LEDs light up the road brighter than stock H4 but within the stock beam pattern. Biggest gain I have seen is that I am more noticeable in the day time.

    If you want to see further down the road, you need to check your aiming on low beam. If that is not good enough, you need to add more auxiliary lighting.

    My painfully long Auxbeam review is here:

    Hope this helps.
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  7. Rockhopp3r

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    Thanks, watched the video. It was very noticeable in the end that they needed to be further pointed up.

    If you could do it again, would you rebuy what you have or be curious enough to spend the additional money for the Cyclops?

    I don't want the best LED in the planet, I just want something that is better than stock and that makes me more visible during day and night time.
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    Yes, I would buy the Auxbeams again. There is no need to spend extra money but at the same time, pay attention to the quality of the housing, LED elements and the physical arrangement of the LEDS with respect to the housing. I don't work for nor am I sponsored by Auxbeam.
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    I just installed the Auxbeams into my Tiger 800 XC, and like the way they look at night. Nice and white with good spill over to the right, but not the left. Must be the Triumph reflectors. Are they a huge improvement over stock? Yes. Were they worth $35 a pair? I think so. Am I more visible in the day time? Probably.

    My tech tip is to plug them into the harness, tuck all that into the bucket, install the three prong base, secure with the retaining spring, THEN twist the LED bulb into the base. Much easier than having to fight the retaining spring over the heat sinks. Also, the little scoop reflector goes on the bottom when you install them to direct the light up to the upper part of the reflectors for the low beams.
  11. Rockhopp3r

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    @Dug89 Can you post a picture of how your Auxlights bulbs are placed?

    I've installed mine (no tools and in under 10 minutes!) but I get the feeling that my placement is off. Right now, my LED's are looking to the left and to the right of the reflectors and when I pulled the halogen bulb I believe the light source was pointed up?

    The rings that come with the Auxbeams pre-screwed into the bulbs (the ones you hold with the metal clamp inside the headlight) can only fit one way in the housing right? The placement of those rings sort of pre determines which way the LEDs will face in the headlight housing and I'm wondering if that's what I screwed up.

    See pic:

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    Looks correct. LEDs shoud point to the side, shield cup should have the opening to the top.
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    Thanks. Will check the cups in a bit.

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    Thanks for the link!
    I’m shocked at the difference in light.
    Did yours have a sticker on the side of the ballast that said 4000k?
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    So, I'm trying out these Auxbeams tonight. Went to a road where it is pitch black, with no other light sources. For those familiar with Los Angeles, the road was Angeles Crest.

    Unfortunately, I think they are pointed too low and this makes them downright unsafe to use in a pitch black twisty road. I will have to test pointing them slightly up to see of there's improvement. I'm on a 2014 tiger explorer, by the way.

    With the high beam on I felt much more confident and was able to speed up significantly, although not as much as riding this road during daytime, obviously.

    I guess the current high beam performance was what I expected from these LED lights on low beams. For some reason, I keep imagining the Auxbeams high beam is what a Cyclops low beam looks like. No way to tell until I try the Cyclops.

    The bike does look cooler (not that I care too much about that), but most importantly there does seem to be improvement on the bikes visibility to drivers during day time.

    I'll try pointing them further up to see if there's improvement.

    For reference, what I was seeing was similar to what is seen in the video posted in this thread.

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    @Rockhopp3r , I agree on the aiming. I have yet to point them up (which it really needs). Should be a simple adjustment on the right and backside of the reflector. Will do it this week and let you know.
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    Correcting my previous message. The vertical adjustment is the lower adjuster not the upper one. Per the service manual:
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    Has anyone tried to the lever, item 3? Load Adjustment?

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    So here's a cool thing. If you look at the vertical adjuster, there is a tabbed lever on it (item 3 in the diagram above). You can flip that and it adjusts the reflector down of you are traveling heavy. So you can adjust the vertical adjustment for your normal riding and if you are loaded up, you can flip the tab to lower the beams. No tools needed, nothing needs to be removed. Easy peasy.
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    After 1 week of predawn commuting with the Auxbeam replacements. I’ve found I like them, a lot! The way the LED is directed at the reflector seems to give me more periferal light. I’m seeing mail box number and other reflectors that wern’t there before. The clarity of the main beam realy brings out any discoloration on the road surface quickly. And cars do seem to notice me more.
    That said, I despise the upper hard cut off horizon. It really limits how far ahead I can see when leaned over in a turn. High beam helps a lot, but not with oncoming traffic.